As someone who’s had to talk people out of racist and misogynistic ideology that they were pipelined into through Rogan/his guests, I really wish he didn’t have so much purchase. I know he has a very polished “chill” veneer, but his long-time friendship with Alex Jones should clue people in to what he’s actually after. He even appeared on Jones’ show a week after one of the Sandy Hook parents who had been targeted by Jones’ listeners killed himself.
https://slate.com/culture/2019/03/joe-rogans-podcast-is-an-e...
I used to believe Gross was the best interviewer until I heard some Stern interviews from 2014. While Stern talks a lot more, he is able to elicit more genuine responses from the guests and his interviews are real-time, not edited. Fresh Air suffers from having to break every 10 minutes.
One observation: Stern was not always as effective an interviewer as he has been in recent years.