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Since it came up, Tkinter's drag and drop story is pretty grim too.

I've used Tkinter with python to make a whole bunch of quick utilities (sync tools for non-techies, XML editing stuff for file applications which lack needed tools, etc.) and think it's very under appreciated.

FWIW, ubuntu python3 does not install Tk by default.

Don't use system python. Use a virtualenv and install your own python. I would expect system python to only install what is needed.

I think aidenn0 was just replying to the claim that "it's always there".

It's not always there. Like it's not there on MSYS2.