U.S. Fighters About to Get Infrared Sensors That Could Be Huge for UFO Reporting
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The circumstances around the patent are even more intriguing. Here’s a quote from a patent lawyer here on HN regarding this patent[2]:
Whether or not the named inventor was a crank, and whether or not the invention was equally frivolous, this was a patent prosecuted by a Navy attorney, vouched for by the Navy CTO, and pushed through under atypical circumstances, in a public forum.
Of course the question then becomes: why even mention this stuff at all? It's not the the Military would really care about a patent in that sense.
I don't believe it either, but The X-Files fan in me can't help but wonder.
There's something buzzing around in the skies. Most sightings most likely have more simple explanations, but there are enough sightings to convince me that there's probably someone buzzing around the skies with shinier hardware than we would expect them to. I'm not saying they're extraterrestrial but they do come from somewhere, and if someone has something that advanced it's only logical that US armed forces are looking into it -- _especially_ if we assume the source is Chinese or Russian and there are intelligence reports backing it up.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28729/docs-show-navy-g...
It goes in depth on other "psuedoscience" patent by the US Navy and how the math involved is almost gibberish.
This paragraph in particular about the initial rejection but subsequent approval was odd.
"According to documents available to the public at the USPTO website, the Patent Office rejected Pais' and the Navy's application for this craft on March 30, 2018. After it was rejected, the NAWCAD’s patent attorney, Mark O. Glut, appealed the decision and submitted further documentation to ensure the patent office that this craft is indeed "enabled," meaning it can actually be built and can perform as described in the patent."
The easy workaround, which it does do often, is that it has IP assigned to it via employment agreements or work for hire or purchasing
Here it was filed by an appointed/elected official operating in the official capacity, with a clear note that the government derives no monetary benefits
This whole thing is very out of character.
In another thread, I thought it could just be someone trolling the patent office, but I don't know.
My internal cynic would guess that it's a joint public-private promotional stunt for Mass Effect. The whole backstory of this sci-fi was that they found a substance that could do exactly that.
"Oh look, US Navy has a patent for eezo-powered drive!"
You don't normally expect this kind of nonsense from government, but the US military is heavily into media tie-ins, mainly film and video games. I'd bet 5 dollars you just nailed it.
Just can't get over that one, either somebody in the NSA has a really dark sense of humor or people working there must be living in some kind of pop-culture vacuum.
[0] https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/02/the-n...
These cameras are going to clear up some of the mysteries we've seen in the past. But they are going to find more, further out.
I was originally interested in all of this new buzz but I now know to skip it.
(I'm not a photographer though. I did read that e.g. scratches on a camera lens don't really have a noticeable effect on the final picture as well)
I find it highly questionable during such a deployment only two jets in the same area (ie, the same light refraction area) saw the anomaly but nothing else did.
The entire point of these new networked systems is to have multiple sources to increase accuracy.
Additionally, satellites are always watching everything all the time. Multiple catch asteroids flying extremely fast all the time. https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-asteroid-peril-isnt-science... (scroll down to see videos)
Where's MH370?
Besides, if they were seen they would just blow up aircraft anyway.
And it's too late to avoid the climate catastrophe anyway, so the only reason aliens would actually show up is for the free real estate after humanity completes its self-fumigation.
The avalanche has begun, it's too late now for the pebbles to vote.
Maybe it's to let foreign adversaries "know that we know" that they're watching us.
Maybe deflecting something deeper about these craft, my guess is that they're nuclear powered.
Or, it could be real. Maybe ET is watching us. I find this the least likely explanation though
Also remember that little of what gets posted to HN counts as sources within the "mainstream media."
If you're trying to imply they're imagining it due to sleep deprivation, that's a bit crass.
We're talking about stuff like this: https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000005607812/look-at-tha...
Could be a falling piece of debris, could be evil space aliens, they don't know what it is - hence UFO.
Lest you think I'm being unfair, consider your link; that's clearly dirt in the lens. The clue? The camera wobbles at the precise instant the "object" rotates, on several occasions. What you're seeing is a gimbaled camera with software auto-leveling; the camera rotates, and the dirt with it. You see a similar phenomenon in other UFO videos that seem to show the UFO "suddenly accelerating" at the end - the camera gimbal reaches the end of its travel, and the object is yanked out of shot.
The Navy has the resources to check for dirt on a lens before they release a video like this. I maintain that the quantity of UFO videos coming out of the Navy tells us more about the Navy than about UFOs.
You can clearly see that the object rotates at a different rate to the camera. You can also see the targeting box adjust itself as the object rotates.
Also I can only presume you think the audio is fake, given what the pilots say about there being a "fleet of them" on the SA display, and the comment about them moving into the wind?
Mate, it's an object being tracked by multiple planes with multiple cameras (more footage of this incident on youtube), two of which are shown in the video (ir and visual). The only reason it's being tracked at all is because they had RADAR lock on it, as indicated by the two vertical lines encompassing it on the display. The reason it appears to be 'stuck' to the view is because the tracking system is that good.
Spend 5 minutes picking up a cursory understanding of a topic before confidently stating outright silliness.
Here, see another one and watch how the RADAR symbology works when the pilot gets a lock. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Fd6ssvcBoM
The metallic cigar shapes could, within the realm of possibility, be free electrons in a similar toroidal path, giving the appearance of a shiny surface. That in turn could perhaps shield our spacecraft in the future.
I find it hard to pin that the US Navy pilots aren't as sharp as we perceived to be, or that these actors had something to gain with this, or if it was easily debunked why weren't the actors involved briefed on what it was.
More sensors means more measurement, which means more control of time and space, and the further enabling of an outward-looking stance. All of which is going to be of benefit as humanity leans harder on the science of the natural world and begins reaching for new ways to prevent catastrophic wars and disasters and explores space travel options. The more sensors, and the smarter they can operate, the better.
The 20th century was in many ways a huge list of reasons why we shouldn't cocoon ourselves and "not explore" things that are what I call NO-NOs: Next order natural occurrences. Think we know it all, have seen it all, and can predict it all? Nope! And sensors are going to help us navigate and push through to new levels of understanding.
It sounds crazy but there are still influential people in the military affairs community who don't believe we should look into UFOs. Not because they claim they don't exist, but because they claim the tech is too far beyond us, and there's nothing we can do about it! So why try? This is literally their reasoning. For a good example, listen to Lt. Col. Halt USAF (RET) recap his experience at Rendlesham in recent interviews.
This psychology is exactly what will keep us from moving forward and exploring whatever else is really out there. No cover-up conspiracies needed, just plain old heads-down psychology. Keep the world the way it is. You can't argue with the psychology and expect to get anywhere; it is too self-protective. So arguing for more and better sensors is probably the best stance we have right now.
Assuming UFO != alien, then this is definitely interesting. There are definitely atmospheric phenomena we know little or nothing about. Sprites, elves, jets, ball lightning and so on. More data on that would be exciting.
2019: "Quick get my worst camera so I can snap this UFO!"
1) he was a Los Alamos employee that came up with a scheme to sell books and such, and has a remarkable gift for acting and telling that story consistently for decades. But then why the FBI raids and such, is that invented too?
2) pretty much his entire story is true. But could such a huge project be kept secret?
We also know he didn't actually go to MIT like he claims, and the way he explains the "alien tech" are not the way a real engineer would talk about these things. So I'd say definitely a crackpot...
And he doesn’t explain the science in a detailed or verbose way.
The burden on proof is on him to prove the story is real, not on others to disprove the stuff he makes up.
He says shit like "the gravity orb was activated by a an electric pressure", which is just nonsense.
When someone just claims (s) he is thorough I immediately get suspicious.
That being said, the central thesis might hold up and I still have to watch the rest.
Money doesn't last forever, and sometimes you need more of it
The theory states that at the end of WWII, Stalin was feeling vulnerable because the US had the atomic bomb but the USSR did not. So he was interested in ways to try to destabilize the US and level the playing field.
So Stalin decided to have his engineers build some flying saucers and fly them into the continental US in order to freak people out. He also had some human cadavers surgically altered to look like aliens and them stuck them in the capsule for good measure.
By flying the saucers into the US mainland, the USSR hoped to put the US government in a bind. If the civilians who would inevitably find the craft were left to believe that it really was an alien ship, the prospect that 'we are not alone' would stir mass social unrest. On the other hand, if the govt identified the vessel as a Soviet aircraft, it would have to admit that the Russians were able to sneak into US airspace without the US military noticing, which would be a scandal in and of itself.
I think that story - as crazy as it is - is more plausible than actual aliens visiting Earth (though its not exactly a high bar). Stalin was certainly psycho enough to consider running such a harebrained scheme. It would also explain why the US govt would cover the whole thing up even if there were no aliens involved.
In any case, I am far more inclined to believe that any UFOs sighting is military-related than any kind of alien encounter.
Case in point: Jacobsen reported in one of her books that "Josef Stalin recruited ex-Nazi Josef Mengele to be part of a scheme where a “UFO with aliens” was created to scare Americans. According to the tale, Mengele — the infamous Nazi “angel of death” who experimented on children at concentration camps — surgically altered a group of youngsters to look like aliens." [1]
1. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/area-51-ufos-aliens-annie-jac...
I will say that in my book a deranged dictator running a insane scheme to try to scare Americans is still FAR more plausible than real extra-terrestrials visiting earth. Or perhaps there was some other secret government project that got covered up. But I am highly skeptical that aliens showed up. (no offense if you disagree)
I figure whatever the truth is we'll probably find out in a couple of decades once more information becomes part of the public domain.