Blindsided by a Devastating Veto, Alaska University System Pleads for Lifeline
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I actually live in Alaska. I'm quite concerned about how the NY Times portrayed this.
While I don't agree with all of the cuts to the University or the budget as a whole, the way this is being portrayed is interesting.
If veto holds, and the cuts to the University take effect, Alaska will still spend 3 times as much per student than the average state. Yes, you heard that correct, Alaska will still contribute 3 times as much in state funding, per student, to their college students than the average state in the lower 48. Going to college for in state residents is one of the lowest tuition rates in the nation for a state school.
Secondly, it didn't get mentioned that Alaska has one University system. There are an amazing amount of redundancies in the system that could eliminated for greater efficiencies and savings.
Lastly, it rarely gets mentioned that the UA system has a huge amount of administrative overhead costs. I attended the UA system and there always seems to be quadruple the administrative staff to actually teaching/research going on.
The last thing I would say is that the State legislatures did a very poor job of overspending while oil prices were good and then when the price of oil dropped, boom!, we had a deficit.
Better fiscal restraint and spending prior to the price of oil dropping would have saved a lot of his heartache.
Not to mention that Alaska is dependent on oil for its current existence and once fossil fuel use is eliminated, this state will lose 75% of its residents.
Just my two cents.
In fact, a few months ago, the University of Alaska Anchorage lost accreditation for their teacher program. Yes, you read that correctly. The largest University in Alaska lost their accreditation for a program that is one of the most needed in the state.
Getting people to teach in Alaska is a major issue for obvious reasons, and the largest university in the state did such a poor job that they lost their ability to graduate licensed teachers.
Maybe you can help me understand this, but how is the solution to cut funding further by 41%?
For the specific situation, maybe a program that paid off student loans for anyone with some period of service (lots of teachers outside of AK) would be a better way to spend the money than unconditionally throwing it at a failing program?
Competitive pressures are required.
Without it, the move seems pretty extreme. Knowing that 3x is being spent puts things in a much different light.
I wish NYT had reported more evenly. I feel sort of like they tried to skew people's thinking, beyond the pale.
> it likely won't get spent in a manner that will benefit society long term.
I don't understand how you reconcile these two statements. Social safety nets benefit society long term.
The phrasing might have been a bit confusing, and this could lead one to think there was a conflict, but this was an agreement post.
Unusual to have such a stark trade off between a progressive program and the ballooning cost of education.
Prediction: The most customer-unfriendly trimming will come first.
The governor is explicitly making this cut in order to increase the oil revenue dividend for residents to $3K per year.
Not to mention that tertiary education funding is regressive. It tends to help those who are already relatively well off.
UA provides an essential service to the state which is basically making and keeping smart people in AK. without UA there would be a severe brain drain and that would really hurt the economy.
One final point UA is NOT a for profit institution and that effects the dynamics of the university. There is not as much pressure to nickel and dime people as one would think.
What makes that an opinion? Seems like conjecture more than anything.
Alternately, if I'm wrong about the value of austerity, and these deep cuts do allow the economy of Alaska to grow, that would also be interesting to learn. Previous recent experiments in this approach, particularly Kansas', don't seem to encourage much hope. But I'd be a fool to believe that you can take budgetary changes and trailing economic results in isolation. The system is far more complicated than that.
Demographic projections say that the senate will be controlled by < 20% of the US population later this century.
Make no mistake about it, western democracy (and our economy / way of life) is under attack by an increasingly fringe minority.
The purpose of giving every state two senators is so that the states, as distinct sovereign entities, each have the same representation in the senate. It doesn’t matter how many people live there.
This piece of information seems to be skipped by almost every high school civics class. Senators were never supposed to represent the people, they were supposed to represent the state governments. The whole purpose of Senators having longer terms than the House and being elected by each state's legislature instead of a direct election was to insulate the Senate (and by extension, Congress) from populism.
Repealing the 17th amendment today would probably a bad idea for a number of reasons but the direct-election of the Senate certainly shifted a lot of power away from the state governments and to the GOP/DNC in a way that was never intended by the Founders.
Exactly. It gives, and is meant to give, sparsely populated states an equal voice to the more populous states. The GP was talking in terms of red states versus blue states, and I was here assuming that context.
Can anyone point to any particular references in founders' documents or authoritative historians showing how this was designed as a specific feature and not a side-effect, e.g., of simply trying to treat states equally at a time when they may not have been as dissimilar (e.g., seems that having fewer people in the entire state of WY than in a single borough of NYC is far more imbalanced than the 1780s)?
"The equality of representation in the Senate is another point, which, being evidently the result of compromise between the opposite pretensions of the large and the small States, does not call for much discussion. If indeed it be right, that among a people thoroughly incorporated into one nation, every district ought to have a PROPORTIONAL share in the government, and that among independent and sovereign States, bound together by a simple league, the parties, however unequal in size, ought to have an EQUAL share in the common councils, it does not appear to be without some reason that in a compound republic, partaking both of the national and federal character, the government ought to be founded on a mixture of the principles of proportional and equal representation. But it is superfluous to try, by the standard of theory, a part of the Constitution which is allowed on all hands to be the result, not of theory, but "of a spirit of amity, and that mutual deference and concession which the peculiarity of our political situation rendered indispensable.'' A common government, with powers equal to its objects, is called for by the voice, and still more loudly by the political situation, of America. A government founded on principles more consonant to the wishes of the larger States, is not likely to be obtained from the smaller States. The only option, then, for the former, lies between the proposed government and a government still more objectionable. Under this alternative, the advice of prudence must be to embrace the lesser evil; and, instead of indulging a fruitless anticipation of the possible mischiefs which may ensue, to contemplate rather the advantageous consequences which may qualify the sacrifice.
In this spirit it may be remarked, that the equal vote allowed to each State is at once a constitutional recognition of the portion of sovereignty remaining in the individual States, and an instrument for preserving that residuary sovereignty. So far the equality ought to be no less acceptable to the large than to the small States; since they are not less solicitous to guard, by every possible expedient, against an improper consolidation of the States into one simple republic.
Another advantage accruing from this ingredient in the constitution of the Senate is, the additional impediment it must prove against improper acts of legislation. No law or resolution can now be passed without the concurrence, first, of a majority of the people, and then, of a majority of the States. It must be acknowledged that this complicated check on legislation may in some instances be injurious as well as beneficial; and that the peculiar defense which it involves in favor of the smaller States, would be more rational, if any interests common to them, and distinct from those of the other States, would otherwise be exposed to peculiar danger. But as the larger States will always be able, by their power over the supplies, to defeat unreasonable exertions of this prerogative of the lesser States, and as the faculty and excess of law-making seem to be the diseases to which our governments are most liable, it is not impossible that this part of the Constitution may be more convenient in practice than it appears to many in contemplation."
20% of citizens controlling 1/3 or 2/3 of the federal government is not a healthy republic, especially when the 20% have views that are so far from average. It's not like they're a representative 20%.
No. Originally, the ratio of Senator to constituents and Representative to constituents was much closer to 1:1 than what we have now.
While there isn't any easy way to fix the imbalance in the Senate (short of adding/splitting states), we can fix the House and Electoral College by simply increasing the size of the House (easy button would be to peg the size of a district to the population of the smallest state).
Ha! Imposing their will?
"The other was intended to represent the states to such extent as they retained their sovereignty except for the powers expressly delegated to the national government. The Senate was thus not designed to serve the people of the United States equally." [1]
The same time the 3/5 compromise and the other parts of the original design of the Constitution designed to preserve unity by assuring slave states that the greater voting population of the free states wouldn't lead to abolition stopped making sense, about 150 years ago.
But the power structure it set up is self perpetuating, so it doesn't matter that it stopped making sense; the people that benefit from it will always protect it and find a way to rationalize it.
There's a perceived culture war by people who live in rural america and your comment projecting it onto the purpose of the Senate is proof of that.
This reminds me of the MCAS system on the 737MAX: the software there worked perfectly, and did exactly what it was designed to do as it flew those two planes straight into the ground with over 300 passengers.
Proximity to your fellow citizens shouldn't lessen your voice, yet here we are.
And anything designed to be that antidemocratic should be recognized as such, and those of us who do care about democracy should be fighting and organizing every day to disband it and replace it with something fair.
It kind of is; the real purpose was to give places that disenfranchised large number of residents who weren't untaxed Indians (that is, slave states) additional voting power in the Senate, House, and Electoral College. Creating a reward for policies so bad they encourage voting citizens to emigrate, while in line with the generally perverse design, was not really the focus.
"Seats" is senate seats per state; "rep" is proportion of total representation; "econ" is proportion of total economic activity.
I picked 150 for the total number of seats to make the rep vs. econ gap narrower, but not so much as to make the poorest 25 completely irrelevant.
state seats rep econ
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California 20 13.3% 14.5%
Texas 12 8.0% 8.7%
New York 11 7.3% 8.2%
Florida 7 4.7% 5.1%
Illinois 6 4.0% 4.2%
PA OH }- 5 6.7% 7.1%
NJ GA WA MA NC }- 4 18.7% 19.5%
VA MI }
MD CO MN TN IN }- 3 10.0% 9.2%
AZ WI MI CT LA }- 2 10.7% 10.7%
OR SC AL }
KY OK IA UT KS }
NV DC AK NE MS }
PR NM HI NH WV }- 1 16.7% 12.5%
ID DE ME RI ND }
AK SD MO WY VT }
island terr. }- 0 0.0% 0.1%
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Total 150The perverse incentive there encourages secession, state-splitting, endless intractable battles over Puerto Rican statehood or DC representation, and engineering politics at the state level to influence interstate migrations based partly on political views on national issues.
I.e. Colorado decriminalizes recreational cannabis, and Alabama recriminalizes abortion. Lefties are incentivized to move from AL to CO, and righties the reverse. Everybody who voted Doug Jones leaves for literally greener pastures, and mall-menace Roy Moore wins the seat.
(Anecdotally, one of my co-workers is moving to Denver, and I have realized I am envious.)
It further incentivizes politically competitive states to do anything for just 0.1% of the vote, because that might just be the margin that gets you all the power, for six whole years, on election day.
I don't think going strictly by population density is the best approach either, though - that's a good way to completely alienate millions of Americans. Remember that the two branches of Congress were setup like this to force urban and rural communities to work together and compromise. The problem now is that tribalism has become so rampant on both sides that compromise no longer really happens.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territ...
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_Gini_co...
The cynical way of looking at this (and IMO supported by the popularity of Trump's rhetoric) is that most on-the-ground Republicans aren't actually opposed to government handouts, they're just worried that government handouts are mostly going to the wrong people - groups outside of their circle of empathy. Unfortunately, this often seems to be largely defined by race...
A parenting analogy may be in order. Once I stopped my then 2yr old from walking over some broken glass, to her loud objection. It would have been stupid to allow even such impermanent injuries as bloody cuts on her feet in order to "teach her a lesson" that she would not actually have learned.
In today’s economy, selling your university system for scrap is a horribly damaging move even for a well-populated state with a diverse economy. In Alaska it could be fatal.
I do agree that ruining your state university system is a bad move long-term, but if that's what the voters want, if you support democracy, you have to give it to them.
If the governor had campaigned on gutting the university in particular to achieve his goal, rather than on a vague promise of "more $" I might be more inclined to agree with you. As it is I think the responsible thing to do is for the legislature to override him on this if possible until the next election.
You're right though: it is a pretty good middle ground. It results in a state/nation that operates more or less according to the wishes of its citizens. The citizens of Alaska want bigger oil dividends and don't care about university education, so that's exactly what they're getting. Of course, this doesn't mean the citizens are getting what's best for them, but they're getting what they think is best, and if that means disaster for them in the future, it's their own fault.
They probably had no coherent picture of how that would happen, specific benefits with vague sacrifices is a pretty standard approach to political messaging.
Perhaps, but “X was responsible for understanding that this would be the consequence” and “X was aware that this would be the consequence and actively preferred it” are very different claims.
The voting population of Alaska is comprised of adults. Not children to be parented.
The structure of power between federal gov and states is explicitly designed to give states the freedom to experiment with different policies (the whole "Laboratories of democracy" thing).
You think this cut will do lots of damage. The voting population in Alaska (or their duly elected representatives) believe otherwise.
Given that there's no magic ball to tell you how this will work out, it's blatantly un-democratic to claim you know better than the voters.
Instead we get to watch what happens to a university system when you cut the operating budget in half with little warning and no planning.
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My hypothesis is that it's going to go badly, but I'm not sure by any means. It could be that these drastic cuts force the university system to trim real administrative fat, it could force them to be creative with purchasing and contracting to cut costs. It could have no real impact whatsoever.
I get the sense that the comments here equate a reduction in budget to annihilation of higher education. I find this to be a bit extreme as there needs to be a reasonable conversation about the cost of that education and what resources and personnel are really required to deliver it and are the students/society really getting value for their money at current prices.
How will we know what changes take place in the health of an individual working in the various dangerous occupations common in Alaska (logging, fishing, oil, and mining) over the course of 10 years. It takes 10 years to find out!
How can workers demand payment for the true hazards they face if they don't know the hazards they face? Who benefits from ignorance?
Well, kind of. I know this is more of a meta-question about government and democracy, etc., but this was a unilateral action by one elected official:
> Gov. Mike J. Dunleavy shocked the state last month by using a veto to cut much deeper, taking away $130 million more from the system that gave him his master’s degree.
It would be different if, for example, they voted for a tax and spend Democrat and then, when elected, that official had made deep budget and tax cuts.
This was much more than the legislature passed and budget-hawkish enough for him to claim victory. Instead he just went nuclear and zeroed out $130 million with no warning. That's beyond ordinary budget hawkery and into batshit land.
I live in a heavily gerrymandered state, so it's not even clear what it means to say that we have an elected government.
Alaska is nothing like the rest of the country, that should be clear.
>But I'd be a fool to believe that you can take budgetary changes and trailing economic results in isolation. The system is far more complicated than that.
is exploited by those with a vested interest to place blame elsewhere