Once you learn where the buttons are you can control them without taking your eyes off the road. That looks like most cards other than a Tesla.
Once you learn where the buttons are you can control them without taking your eyes off the road. That looks like most cards other than a Tesla.
Most of the stuff that I want to do is steering wheel, or is controlled by voice after hitting a button on my steering wheel.
If you have to look at the screen while driving, you're doing something wrong.
Depending on what you want from a car it is entirely possible and reasonable to discover that while Tesla is the best EV on the market, they do pretty crappy job of being a car as good as one that costs half as much.
This criticism was one that anyone who drives a Tesla should know is BS. That's why I said it. It is the kind of stupid thing that people think when they haven't experienced the car.
But if you claim, for example, that the tires wear out too quickly, I'd never question whether you're an actual Tesla driver. (But I would bet money that it is your fault for coming out of your stops heavy on the accelerator...)
That's exactly why Tesla fanboys (and Tesla, by extension)_ aren't taken too seriously -- no, Elon is not Lord and Savior, and Tesla is not the Second Coming. It's a car, with some nice properties (if you want an EV), some serious shortcomings, and with some greatly deceptive marketing around pricing, savings, FSD etc.
I would disagree emphatically with this assertion.
The UX in particular seems to have been very thoughtfully considered whereby the few controls that are used frequently get some dedicated buttons and the remainder in the touch screen and/or voice control. The degree of thoughtfulness between Tesla and nearly all other manufacturers is very starkly different.
Seriously, I am not really going to take seriously any claims from anyone who says that a touchscreen in a moving vehicle is a good idea. This is an idea that is absolutely ridiculous on its face.
Take away all the whiz bang, all the software, the AutoPilot, the dashcam, the dog mode and the arcade games, the massive touch screen and the smartphone app. Touch nothing but the steering wheel, shift wand, accelerator and brake... and drive it fast and hard on a winding summer road. Nothing can touch it, certainly nothing anywhere near its price point, and nothing that you pop the family in comfortably when you’re done.
Pretty crappy job. That’s funny!
But there's a little problem -- if you take all of this stuff out you end up with a car that can't even be controlled in any way. I don't think you'd be allowed to drive a car with a steering wheel but no speedometer on a public road. And all of those things are exactly where Tesla... well, sucks. Batteries and motors they do well. Probably better than anyone else at this point. I'll even believe that they figured out how to do suspensions and other automobiley things right. But fit, finish, and that touchscreen on the side, sorry, that's not impressive. And I can think of quite a few quite practical cars that can take twisties as well as TM3 for same or less money, and faster, at that. And with real buttons to control everything.
The two I use regularly are to press the button on the right of the steering wheel and then say, "Navigate to ..." or "Play ...".
Everything else is controlled from the steering wheel.
It's also a €27,900 car, vs a €58,000 Tesla.
It's not perfect but pretending that you need to interact with the touchscreen to drive the car is ridiculous.
The buttons may seem confusing at first glance but this is not a website but a car that you literally get trained to ride and stick with it for more than few seconds so in no time all these buttons become second nature.
The website domain is "grumpy" so I guess the OP prides himself/herself of being grumpy but I don't think that everyone has to be grumpy.
And how you switch radio stations (I still haven’t figured that) out.
Or how you get to a second/third/fourth screen because Renault couldn’t figure out how to show all useful info on one screen.
Or, since Bluetooth is finicky, how to initiate phone connection.
All the things I had to do while driving, multiple times.
The phone connection is better taken care before start driving if you’re doing it for the first time but after that it instantly connects when you get inside the car with your phone.
Nothing that is important during driving should be controlled through the touch screen. Here Renault is better than Tesla.
Not on Talisman. You can only set the temperature with knobs. You want to increase/decrease airflow? Welcome to the touchscreen.
The Tesla UI is the simplest screen based system I have used in a vehicle. The first rule is, you never really need to interact with it at all during a drive. This is true for many cars, even those with forty buttons AND a screen. Most cars have automatic climate control, automatic head lamps, many have automatic wipers as well. Many replicate simple often used controls to the steering wheel, this usually just means volume control and changing media tracks/stations but its all most ever need during any drive. Tesla's one fault is not having full blue tooth control over audio baked in, maybe they will get off their ass and fix it, who knows, they seem to be fixated on games which you cannot use while driving.
Do a test, first count all your buttons. Put a sticker on each. When safe remove a sticker for each one you actually had to use. Go for it. How is this better? Don't try the argument of taking your eyes off the road. Everyone does this while driving a car properly, checking mirrors and more is a trained activity all good drivers do, taking information in with glances and more all becomes second nature.
The real issue is that in the transition is too many manufacturers are keeping far too much of the old method and combining it with a screen UI, usually a bad screen UI. One that an option you would actually want to use while driving requires more than a quick touch or voice command.
Motortrend's current issue compares a new BMW 3 series, Genesis G70, and a Tesla TM3. They have a nice picture of all three dash boards in one page. What will strike you quickly is how convoluted the G70 and 3 series look.
This Renault is a perfect example of trying to do both methods all at once and failing miserable. Bad UI is bad no matter if its buttons only or screen only and doubly worse when its both.