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Irony, Federal Government Style (see page three)

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On the way out of the house this morning I heard that "the Federal Government will continue to operate until March".

Yes the intention was that the Paperwork Reduction Act section requires an entire page while utilizing about 10% of it. I didn't realize the scribd link was present, let alone not funny. I pasted in the link from uscis.gov.

I'm missing the irony...

5. an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected.

Perhaps a rewording might help you out.

Paperwork Reduction Act Send comments regarding the burden estimate or any other aspect of this collection of information, including suggestions for reducing the burden, to: In the interest of producing less paperwork please fill in information about how we can ask fewer questions.. (Would sending them, "stop asking this question" count?)

"The public reporting burden for this collection of information is estimated at 12 minutes per response, including the time for reviewing instructions and completing and submitting the form." In the interest of saving you time we feel it's important to inform you that we expect you to spend 15 seconds reading this sentence.

PS: Or you could rewrite the whole section as: In the interest in reducing the time it takes to read these instructions and fill out this form, please read the following and fill this section so we might at some point in the future may be able to reduce the time it takes to fill out this form.

... or that the reduction notice alone takes up an extra page.

The [scribd] link for this submission does not go to the same document as the pdf link. It's a 1991 form with no paperwork reduction act message. Page 3 is just a list of acceptable forms of identification.

I interpreted it as page three, other than that one tiny section, is otherwise a full blank page.

Yeah, me too. The reply to your question wasn't helpful as the link is to the I-9, none of which appears to have anything to do with paperwork reduction. The link off HN also mentioned page 3, which only lists valid forms of ID.

I'm missing something.

The current Form I-9 is five pages. The first three pages contain instructions for completion of the form. Page three contains one paragraph about the paperwork reduction act. Page four is the form, and page five is the list of acceptable documents. The irony is that the government could reduce paper work by getting rid of the third page of instructions. The reality is that the instructions should probably be about ten pages since almost no one does the I-9 right and most companies would be surprised to find out they have liability sitting in their HR files due to this one page form.

Page five is not a list of forms of identification, it is a list of documents you may provide to prove you have the legal right to work within the United States. It just happens to be that some forms of identification also prove work authorization for some citizenship statuses. For example, if you are a U.S. citizen your drivers license and social security card or your passport prove this. Edit: The I-9 form however does establish identity in addition to right to work because of the overlap.

Fun tip: Lots of companies request specific documents for the purpose of completing this form (drivers license and ssn usually), this is a form of discrimination and you have a legal right to complain to the Office of Special Council www.osc.gov

Disclaimer: I am employed by a company that specializes in supporting companies processes for this specific document.

Cool…that's not what the link sent me to. It was a 3-page I9 from–iirc–1991 that said nothing about paperwork reduction.

Yeah, the scribd link is to an old and now invalid version of the form unfortunately.

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