Is that the same muscle used to roll Rs in some of the Romance languages?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharyngeal_consonant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uvular_consonant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Place_of_articulation#/media/F... (9 vs 10)
I’m a bit of a parrot and so sounds I can’t reproduce draw me in like a moth to a flame. The click sound in some African languages and the very guttural singsong of Vietnamese/Thai are my only nemeses... so far.
An articulation point is simply supposed to be the place where you put your tongue. In this case it's so far back in your throat, I'm not sure you actually can put your tongue there.
But the muscles are in your tongue, the articulation points are just places in your mouth. Like the palate, for palatal consonants, or lips for labial, in some more familiar examples.
I can't speak for the other Romance languages, but that's for sure the wrong way to make that sound in French, and a lot of people can't seem to hear the difference.
There's a reason some comedians make fun of european languages by clearing their throats. The rolled consonants are throaty, not mouthy (a word I just made up right now, sue me).
No need for suing.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dental,_alveolar_and_postalveo...
Another fun trill is the bilabial one [2], like imitating a fart with your lips. It doesn't really qualify as a rolled R, though.
The normal (American) English term for this is "raspberry".
That’s the stuff. Thanks for the vocab lesson. And look at that map. Most of northern and Central Europe is a guttural r.
You trilled R motherfuckers in French class ignored your poor teachers’ pained expressions for years, while the rest of us wanted to go up, pat them, and say it’s okay, we share your pain.
Apparently I have some unresolved hostilities toward some people who got A’s but had disastrous pronunciation.