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A Father and Daughter Who Drowned at the Border Put Attention on Immigration

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In the course of attempting to fraudulently claim asylum in the US ("fleeing poverty" is not a valid reason for asylum under international treaties, and even if they had a valid reason such as political persecution they already had a Mexican humanitarian visa and therefore had no need to seek asylum in the US), parents try to swim a 1-year old across a huge river, killing her and one of themselves in the process. It does put attention on immigration.

What exactly is the US supposed to do? If they don't "meter" the asylum processing facilities, the facilities will become overcrowded and be dubbed "concentration camps". If they do meter them, they "cause" people to do deadly things with their children in tow, according to people quoted in this article.

Maybe people would still be poor in Central America if not, but the US has a responsibility to deal with some of the consequences after decades of destabilization and intervention in the region.

There is no nation on Earth that just throws open their borders as is repeatedly asked of the U.S. in recent years.

It is true that the U.S. has a responsibility to its neighbors. It doesn't follow that open borders are the same thing as taking responsibility. In fact, open borders are the opposite of responsibility.

USA doesn't need to open its borders indiscriminately, what I'm saying is that it should take responsibility for some of the fallout of its own meddling with Latin American democracies and economies.

Indiscriminately opening the borders is just as bad as indiscriminately closing them, there should be a fair review process to accept some of those refugees. Expecting Mexico to become "the wall" will just stall the humanitarian crisis a few years.

>What exactly is the US supposed to do?

We're the richest country in the world and we're denying them soap and toothbrushes, items that cost pennies in bulk. It's not about money or resource allocation, it's about cruelty.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/06/21/detained-mi...

I'm glad we agree ... so with that settled, the Democrats, particularly the progressive wing, will be approving funding for Homeland Security and Border Patrol then, right?

No? Oh, right, I forgot we need to keep this humanitarian crisis going till the 2020 elections so that Dems can retake the White House ...

CBP doesn't have enough money for soap and toothbrushes?

On the same day Óscar Alberto and Valeria died, U.S. Border Patrol agents found four bodies along the Rio Grande in Texas' Rio Grande Valley, about 55 miles west of Brownsville. In that case, three children — one toddler and two infants — died along with a 20-year-old woman.

Serious question (ignoring the political perspective) will a wall reduce this or cause more injury by people trying to go under/over it?

A wall would deter people from coming to begin with, which would ease the burden on border patrol facilities, making the whole situation more humane.

Let's not belittle these people by pretending that they don't have access to the internet and world news. People will still come, but once word spreads that a wall in key locations is actually being built, at least some percentage of them will reconsider the decision and settle with aid from countries such as Mexico, which had already been granted to them.

Key locations of a 3000+ km border? Please realize the wall is just a political slogan. It will never be seriously built because it's insanely expensive, and no matter how many km you manage to save, it will be very big and very hard to guard.

Ironically, you might not need it since Trump and AMLO (the Mexican president) agreed for Mexico to stop the influx of migrants with its own resources. In a sense, we built the wall and are paying for it, by becoming the wall itself.

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