yeah and good luck deciphering their licensing. I'm a SF consultant and SF called the CEO of my company and told him to tell me to stop "socializing pricing" with one of my clients.

It really pissed me off since I have a long and trusted relationship with this client, if i can't give her a ballpark on licensing costs for some feature portfolio then what good am i as a consultant? God, it still pisses me off to even think about.