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Vertical. Tabs. For my usecase, nuff said. Chrome developers WONTFIXed requests for this a long time ago, so keep using Firefox I will (that and doing my part to preserve web engine diversity).

Additionally, I've begun trying out Brave/Vivaldi/Opera to see if I can uninstall Chrome from my system entirely; They all run Blink, so I assume I can open the occasional compatibility-issue pages on those.

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I have gone Vivaldi and after a month, I don't see myself reverting to either FF or Chrome. Needs some tweaking in the settings, yet it is fast and neat the in the end.

I don't see myself going back with my current experience.

Vivaldi is excellent. There are so many little quality-of-life improvements that I can't imagine living without. The one single feature that had me hanging onto Firefox all these years was unlimited browser history. Chrome throws away your history after 3 months (https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=500239), which is insane. With Vivaldi I finally get unlimited history and the superior Chrome dev tools.

I'm not super pleased about Vivaldi being closed-source, but with the direction Mozilla has been going I didn't see it as too much of a betrayal.

I have been sticking to Vivaldi as my main browser for a while now. I spend a lot of time with web browsers and Vivaldi has a UI that is quite the opposite of dumbed down. It is quite customizable and if you try it out, the first things you should do is head tonthe settings and tweak things to your liking.

There are some minor hicups here and there (mostly with video playback on Linux and the rare browser detection logic going off the rails), but nothing so major that I would consider switching away.

What plugin allows this feature in Firefox now?

Tab Center Redux https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/tab-center-redux/

This is the most stable option for sure. The more popular Tree Style Tab is still rather buggy, even after its complete rewrite.

Tree Style Tabs is a popular one. Though none can take away the Tabs in title bar without manually installed CSS hacks.

It’s only a few lines of code, though.

Not a big problem for technical users, but it's enough to dissuade many non-technical users. With vertical tabs being such a second class feature in this and other ways, consumers have not been given a fair opportunity to try both schemes and decide for themselves which they prefer. Thus the tyranny of horizontal tabs is perpetuated.

    $ cat userChrome.css 
    /* Mozilla chrome (UI) styling */

    /* Hide tabs bar
     *
     * Fri Nov 17 12:23:47 CST 2017
     * https://superuser.com/questions/1268732/how-to-hide-tab-bar-tabstrip-in-firefox-57-quantum
     * https://www.ghacks.net/2017/09/27/tree-style-tab-is-a-webextension-now/
     */

    #tabbrowser-tabs { visibility: collapse !important; }

Rather than simply disabling the tabs, I find it useful to conditionally disable them:

``` #main-window:not([customizing]):not([tabsintitlebar="true"]) #toolbar-menubar[inactive="true"] + #TabsToolbar { visibility: collapse !important; } ```

This snippet shows tabs when in "customize" mode, so you can access elements from addons placed on the tab bar by default. It also shows tabs when the menubar is showing: tap alt to peek, enable menubar to have vanilla access to tabs again. Finally, if you use the setting "tabs in titlebar", tabs are not disabled.

Doing it this way enforces sensible behavior and gives you escape hatches that don't require editing CSS and restarting the browser.

HN doesn't do markdown, to get code text indent by 4 spaces.

My userChrome.css looks like this https://github.com/dngray/ghacks-user.js/tree/fx-desktop#use...

    @namespace url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul");

    /* Remove default items from the urlbar-container */
    #back-button,
    #forward-button,
    #stop-reload-button,
    #reload-button,
    #customizableui-special-spring1,
    #home-button,
    #customizableui-special-spring2,
    #library-button,
    #sidebar-button {
        display:none;
    }

    /* Disable Tab toolbar for Tree Style Tab */
    #tabbrowser-tabs {
        visibility: collapse !important;
    }

    #sidebar-header {
        display: none;
    }

I use the hotkeys or buttons on my mouse so I removed all the buttons from the toolbar https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/keyboard-shortcuts-perf...

Tree Style Tab is another option, allowing vertical tabs with nested hierarchy: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...

As someone that likes to use open tabs as a sort of todo list, I can't live without that extension. Allows me to keep different trees open for various purposes: PRs in one tree, Issues in another, academic/scientific paper to-read list, forum posts, etc

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