Show HN: Our (two) weekend project: 365.io - A photo a day for one year.
365.io
365.io
Charge $12, but refund $1 for each completed month.
The refunds keep the users coming back, and the ads support your business.
I started sth very similar to this this with a couple of friends one year ago and every single one of us lost interest/motivation/time in the first half of the year :(
11$ seems a fair price if I'm hooked to your product but I need to try it before. Maybe you can offer a free plan, or give a trial period (10days for example).
Also I think that you should put your "View a sample collection" way higher in your homepage.
Good luck! I really love what you did, your design and your logo are awesome :)
The main difference between this and a Flickr stream is the focus. Flickr is meant for photography in general, and while you could use it for Project 365, it's less organized and focused. For example, your P 365 entries would be mixed in with your regular flickr uploads.
You need to prove the value of your product before you can start charging users $11. Your frontpage gives no indication of the value added.
Regardless, thanks for the feedback.
> You need to prove the value of your product before you can start charging users $11
Disagree about this. It's obvious what the offering is, so let the user decide if it's worth $11 to them. The expectation of value is set by defining the price point.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thwarted/sets/72157623777255069...
This is from a 20 line shell script that takes a picture at some random time within a minute after I unlock the screensaver. They are then uploaded manually using kflickr because, honestly, some of them come out really crappy (out of focus/blurry) and I unlock my computer like a 100 times a day.
(To answer the inevitable question, yeah, it's caught me naked a few times.)
Maybe I slightly exaggerated on the size. It's a 14 line shell script and a 57 line perl script. Anyway, it's small. Requires xscreensaver and mplayer and a working USB camera.
One guy was pretty intimidated by the project at first. He started by trying it for a week, and now he's done 320 days or so.
They had their own server, but it recently died. The photo are copied elsewhere, but the comments are possibly gone forever. I'm certain that any of them would pay $20 for someone else to take care of the servers.
What we did instead is put up a "Start Project" button instead of auto-starting it on sign-up so users can choose when to start.
On the homepage there should be a much higher-priority link to see a sample gallery.
When I clicked on a photo, I didn't know how to get back to the timeline/365 view. I went for the back button, but it wasn't active. It was hard to figure out that it was actually a light box. An animation when the lightbox activates would help, as would making the lightbox "less fullscreen."
You could also ask, "What (other than a lovely design) makes a Macbook/BMW/Dyson/Armani better than a Dell/Lincoln/Hoover/Old Navy?"
Macbook vs Dell - Technology (specialised CPUs, Dual graphics chipsets in Macs to give better battery life and hard-wired flash chips in Macbook Air)
BMW vs Lincoln - Forgive me, I'm not well versed in American cars, but BMWs have cutting edge technology as well as some serious add-ons and tech (one of the first to introduce GPS, in-seat heating, various energy/mileage saving technologies such as brake-recharging). I don't know enough about Lincoln to say what they've introduced.
Dyson vs Hoover. Massive differences in technology, better suction on a Dyson, bagless, easier to clean.
It's interesting in the first three comparisons the premium option has a large amount of patents and internally developed technologies don't have (exception: Lincoln, I don't know enough about them to comment).
Armani vs Old Navy. Material quality, stitching quality, the way the garments are (traditionally) made although the gap is closing (if you'll pardon the unintentional pun).
Ultimately though there's a big difference in focus. Old Navy makes clothes for day to day wear in a variety of circumstances. Armani make clothes to be seen in at events. Apple are highly consumer and creative focused, Dell are more business oriented (but also attacking the consumer market). Dyson targets people who don't want to clean/change bags every now and again. BMW targets moderately wealthy men who want something decent they can drive as though they own the road with, I don't know who Lincoln target but it appears to be a higher end luxury car brand of Ford.
There is a soft per-image file size limit, but it should allow room for most cameras including the higher megapixel ones.
Also, flickr's upload limit on the free plan wouldn't allow you if you have a high megapixel camera.
The only reason that I personally was able to complete my 365 was because I had options for uploading my photos direct to my set from my phone (I tried various paid apps until I found one I was mostly happy with.) If I had to sync my photos with my computer first then it never would have gotten done. Obviously on the one hand it would have been great to have 365 high quality photos from my DSLR, but the convenience of the iPhone was the only way I could keep up some days. In other words, an app or a simple way to e-mail photos to the program would be a must for me. And I probably spent $50 specifically for my 365 between Flickr Pro membership and various apps I tried, so I don't see the $11 as off-putting in itself at all.
If you're curious about my 365, I took a photo a day of my Toy Story Toys: http://www.flickr.com/dafalcon/ - the set is on the right side. And I just started 365 days of my newborn baby girl ... Give me good reason to switch from Flickr and I just might!
We're planning on allowing users to purchase a book of their photos at the end of the project.
We're also working on adding email-to-365, which would allow you to upload via your phone and other devices since e-mail is pretty widespread. We're also working in webcam integration so you can take a picture from the website itself.
One thing we allow is backlogging. Right now it's basic, but we're planning to implement a verification feature so that pictures that don't match the dates get flagged. They'd still be in the project, but they'd be marked as late. We were thinking about doing this by reading the images EXIF data.
The way it stands is you're offering a pretty page for photos at $11 that doesn't target any real customer niche and does what a Tumblr blog paired with a Flickr account would do for free in a more flexible way.
It's funny because there are so many people on HN and Reddit, for example, who don't capitalize on creating small niche services because there's already a Flickr, or already a Youtube and whathaveyou.
So I think you've done a good job here.
I think you could probably market $10 better. Remove the struck out $20 and just prominently and proudly display the $10.
As a risky marketing move, how about refunding all users who paid $20 the difference? What a great way to get them talking about you on Twitter, Facebook, etc. when you deposit their account with $10. It's a nice surprise.
Just an idea. Good luck.
Say like, you can use it for free for the first month, then if you like to continue with it, pay $11.
The price should be free or lower if you upload daily, and automatically charge your CC for the higher yearly fee if you miss uploading.
I have a feeling this site will take off.
There's a sample collection you can check out at http://365.io/u/2fe9781736.
you could probably accomplish the same thing by using flickr's api. let users upload photos to flickr (with a certain tag that your site would look for) or through your site, but collect and present all of them with your own layout and sharing mechanisms. flickr can host all of the photos and let users keep copies of their own photos in their own photostream. you could pull in comments made on flickr and show them in the same stream with comments left on your own site.
there should still be incentive to use your site to view the photos, though, like having a voting mechanism and some kind of 'picture of the day' that would get displayed on the homepage.
Flickr's terms won't allow that type of use of their api. Also, flickr has a 200 photo limit on free accounts that makes project 365 impossible unless you upgrade, and even less so if you use flickr for something else.
Incorrect.
From http://www.flickr.com/help/limits/
"When you have a free Flickr account, you can upload 2 videos and 300MB worth of photos each calendar month....Your upload limits are reset to zero at midnight in Pacific Time Zone (Flickr headquarters time) on the first of each calendar month."