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Comment by blackoil | Hacker News Reader

Brexit shows, citizens are not in the best position to take decisions on complex matters.

This is funny. A big reason people voted brexit is because they want more local governance instead of letting some bureaucrats in Brussels decide their fate.

In the grand scheme of things brexit might be a bad idea, but you're effectively saying people shouldn't govern themselves because they would vote for more self-governance...

Brexit was a structural failure of British democracy, not an indictment on British voters.

How so?

Multiple reasons, two I can think of right now that frustrate me at that the vote was held when students were on holiday (they needed to vote where they lived, so many students didn't vote who were 6-1 remainers). Secondly, lots of undemocratic goings-ons such as https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/sep/14/judges....

Pro-Brexiters lying on the motives and outcomes? (Farage & Johnson not the least)

Like every party on every election at every level. Even though I share the outrage about it, we can't deny that lying is not uncommon.

That's not an acceptable standard for any public figure.

And yet we accept it all the time.

Educated citizens may be. The problem is when politicians are allowed to lie through their teeth, as they did for brexit, and the educational system didn't prepare everyone to question the obviously absurd claims made by leavers.

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