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Comment by nkozyra | Hacker News Reader

Amazing to see an anecdote like this trotted out as newsworthy. There are three total data points and two of them are incredibly vague.

Honestly, this feels a bit like propaganda.

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It's just a click bait title, especially since the last sentence in the article is "If America “decides to remove the 25% tariff, we will move the production back to China right away,” Tu said."

Doesn't sound like the era of Made in China is over if they're itching to get back.

Made in China is over, that ship has sailed.

- US recently declared China to be a dangerous competitor,

- both parties are full-force anti-CCP. except maybe a few candidates like Joe Biden

- Taiwan view China as dangerous as well

- Way cheaper labors exists in SE asia

what's anti-CCP?

Suspicious of and hostile towards the Chinese Communist Party.

Ok, we changed to the subtitle above.

The title clearly says 'World's top bicycle maker says'. It's an opinion.

It's not opinion, it's an announcement that they're moving their manufacturing to Taiwan.

"Giant Manufacturing is moving U.S. orders to Taiwan factory"

"Giant" is the brand.

Yeah, not sure about how they're measuring. By market cap, Shimano is about four and a half times larger. P/E is very close between the two; Giant's PY return is about 77 times better than Shimano's.

Shimano doesn't sell bicycles, just a lot of bicycle components and accessories.

Fair enough, I just couldn't think of any other manufacturers even in the industry that make more parts or complete bicycles (that I can actually buy) than Giant does.

Shimano is the world’s major bicycle-component manufacturer, but they do not do much production of frames or complete bikes, and Giant certainly leads in that regard.

Shimano makes bicycle parts, not bicycles. Giant sells bicycles, and some of them come with Shimano parts.

Shimano also makes expensive high-end fishing reels.

They go for anywhere from a couple hundred to 1k+ (like the Stellas) apiece and you typically want 3 - 5 rod/reel setups when going on a fishing trip.

> It's an opinion.

Opinion articles are - by convention - designated as such. This allows journalistic institutions to distance themselves from things that are insufficiently sourced or are overtly one-sided.

This doesn't fall under that umbrella. It's presented as a piece of economic foreshadowing that Trump's threats are impacting the viability of China as a global manufacturing hub. Which, ok, prove it! Don't give us one company's stated stance, show the numbers. Give us more sources.

This is not good journalism.

It's a company using politics to get free press. Nothing new here.

The article is also missing an important context, Giant is a Taiwanese company. A lot of the world's high end bicycle are built by them in Taiwan.

It doesn't matter if you're right or not, if such a company believes (or even just says) it, it's newsworthy.

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