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It's very sad that while you are going through all this, in other parts of the world where the situation is far better, the only interest in Venezuela seems to be how they can use it to support their political claims.

For instance in Spain, leftist people refuse to acknowledge how bad the situation is because they link Chavez and Maduro with their ideas and somehow think that it would show weakness in their ideology, specially for some politicians that openly praised Chavez.

On the other side, right wing people want the situation to be as bad as possible so they can use it as a proof of how harmful the left is for a country.

So Venezuela will pop up again and again in political discussions, but the important issue seems to be "my ideology is betters than yours", not helping the people.

I really hope it gets better for you.

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Yeah, the situation right now is a political tug of war between the left and the right. The people get stuck in the middle. It really sucks.

Thanks for your thoughts.

In the United States it's the same, but the left don't even take it as an example of socialist failures. Instead they attribute the state of Venezuela to having been the consequence of American interventionism. It's actually a tragedy, because the lessons to be learned from the failure of socialism come at the cost of countless lives, the least we could do is come away with something of utility.

Alas, your argument is tragic because with just a simple switch of a phrase, it becomes even more truthful:

>It's actually a tragedy, because the lessons to be learned from the failure of western imperialism come at the cost of countless lives, the least we could do is come away with something of utility.

We in the West all too often ignore the victims of Americas heinous illegal wars - over 500,000 innocent people have lost their lives because America believes it has a right to interfere in sovereign states across the globe.

Whether you are left- or right- oriented, you will be doing yourself and your culture a favour by stopping the very poor habit of ignoring the real victims of America's wars, who have too long been swept under the covers, because its either too embarrassing or the inherent evils too obvious upon inspection.

Americans of all political persuasions really need to stop America's war machine. It is, undeniably, the most negative influence in the world today.

I oppose all American interventionism. I think it's horrible. That being said, it's not the reason why the Venezuelan state failed.

Venezuela would be in a much better condition today if the CIA was not interfering in its internal politics. There can be absolutely no doubt about this - the evidence is absolutely clear to those who care to look.

To discount the negative effect that CIA interference in the normal operation of sovereign states has on the world, one has to be willing to fall for a hell of a lot of propaganda and lies. The CIA is one of the most evil organisations on the planet today.

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