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Apple strips clips of devs booing $999 monitor stand using copyright claims

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Isn’t it fair use?

A small fragment of a copyrighted video as part of a larger work made to satirize is completely legal!

Aren’t there penalties for fake DCMA requests?

Isn’t it fair use?

Nothing is automatically fair use. At the end of the day only a judge can decide if something is fair use or not.

YouTube is also a private platform, they can take down your video for any reason at all.

While it's true, it's also missing enough detail to be wrong. There are laws governing content use on websites and Youtube is obeying the safe harbor provision with hasty response to take down requests. So the reason they take your video down here is "compliance with the law".

You're ultimately correct, but the YT Fair Use Guidelines don't seem to be directly at odds -- unless Apple is arguing that the laughter hurts the copyrighted works profitability?

[ https://www.youtube.com/yt/about/copyright/fair-use/#yt-copy... Guideline : 4. The effect of the use upon the potential market for, or value of, the copyrighted work]

The article seems to be 10 days old, and the video they were using as example is not blocked.

People don't click retracted articles.

The uploader filed a counter-notice and Youtube put the video back. The fact that some of the videos got reinstated doesn't change that Apple filed the DMCA takedowns in the first place.

Sure, but it was previously blocked.

This is total nonsense, non-news.

Apple hosts itself a recording of the keynote, and that contains the developer reaction unedited. (This I have verified after they finally posted the keynote on their website; it is conceivable that they've edited it afterwards again, but we'd need evidence for that.)

Apple also takes down videos and excerpts of the keynote on Youtube.

There is no hiding of the developer reaction going on.

(Unless someone can provide evidence that it is only those particular excerpts of the keynote that are being taken down on YouTube.)

For anyone who want it: Apple includes the full WWDC keynote, unedited, on their YouTube channel, including the moment in question (at https://youtu.be/psL_5RIBqnY?t=6118)

The moment in question is edited in Apple's video though

How is it edited, and is it the only part that's edited?

No, that's not true. I checked about the day after the keynote: the moment on Apple's recording of the event is exactly the same as the moment was on the live stream.

It’s easy to prove that your statement is incorrect. John Siracusa posted on twitter that the segment where they announced the stand was 56 frames - a little less than 2 seconds.

That doesn’t appear to be true to me.

I watched the portion of the keynote from Apple’s feed and a couple other videos and they seem substantially the same. The sound’s actually better on the Apple video so I can hear the rumble (not really “boos”) more clearly.

Can you explain what you mean?

I don't know if it's just me, but i'd rather not direct a monetizable view to the perpetrator of (what I consider) copyright system abuse for the very event they bottlenecked/dammed/funneled the views towards their channel during.

Awkward sentence, I know. I can't think of more simplistic way to put it this early in the morning.

You think Apple is putting third party ads on their WWDC keynote?

They won’t even take marketing money from Intel to put the garish stickers on their computers.

Can we call it the Streistand?

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