The Coming Ice Age (1958)
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It's kind of fascinating to see her here at 37, working in obscurity, knocking out fairly pedestrian writing assignments, when in just a few years she's going to change the world.
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_climate_change_scie...
William Donn doesn't appear to have many online tributes, but Maurice Ewing seems to have some interesting work as a geophysicist:
I vaguely remember in the last few years someone linking to a Time magazine cover published in the 80's about global cooling.
If they were taught in school that the earth is cooling, and we know from research that people are very unlikely to change their mind about things after 35 ... well why would they believe it’s now warming?
Even Al Gore's doomsday predictions in the late 90s turned out to be woefully inaccurate. I'm all for being a good steward of the planet, but I think it's reasonable to wait in order to:
- Make sure this is a serious risk, and not just something we can adapt to
- Let technology develop so we can combat climate change effectively and without bankrupting the world.
Furthermore, I see environmentalists who are anti-nuclear, anti-iron-fertilization, and anti-atmospheric-sulfur-injection. If global warming is truly an _existential_ threat, then why aren't these projects appreciated by the run-of-the-mill environmentalists?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/france-nucle...
It's more of a mix of anti-environmentalism (as environmentalism is closely associated in the public mind with the global warming denier's boogeymen -- liberals and the left), ignorance of climate science, anti-intellectualism, conspiracy theorizing that's rife on right-wing media, a desire to recklessly exploit natural resources, and a belief that counteracting global warming will harm businesses and cost taxpayer dollars, which they'd rather spend on the military or on handouts to corporations.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it." ― Upton Sinclair
So it seems reasonable that despite the money the people who are receiving it might rationally support O&G regardless because it is great for their constituents.
It isn't because of what they were taught in school though, that much is pretty clear.
This makes sense. I assume they're expecting more out of this package than some stubborn climate change denialism.
Fossil fuel industries are spending large sums of money to promote backlash. Same as was with smoking and Freon.
Typically people stop updating their world views as they get older.
There were a bunch of articles in the 70s talking about the potential of an ice age. So much so that I remember my dad (69yo) talking to me and my brother about global cooling/ice age when we were kids in the 80s.
He bought the articles in his 20s but now can't be bothered by climate change, because "it was just cooling 40 years ago..."
There is another cover going around mentioning "The Big Freeze", but it refers to a particularly cold winter in the US during the 70s, and not about the so called Global Cooling
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,944914,...
Just because some meme is fake doesn't mean OP was wrong. OP was right.
Also it is hilarious Betty Friedan wrote the harpers article.
It was just another crackpot theory used to fill space in the newspaper. Back then, the serious neurotics used the threat of nuclear annihilation to make themselves sick with worry.
This would not be the article to use to support that claim though.
'As Ewing and Donn read the evidence, an Ice Age will result from a slow warming and rising of the ocean that is now taking place.'
What are you meaning by 'no longer a black box' in this context?
Sorry, I mean "black body." We were taught that the Earth absorbs as much radiation as it emits. The term we were taught for that is "black body."
Wikipedia disagrees.
"A black body or blackbody is an idealized physical body that absorbs all incident electromagnetic radiation, regardless of frequency or angle of incidence. (It does not only absorb radiation, but can also emit radiation. The name "black body" is given because it absorbs radiation in all frequencies, not because it only absorbs.)"
It really doesn't.
This might help. http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/cosmos/B/Blackbody+Radiation
Note the line 'As the temperature of the blackbody increases, the peak wavelength decreases'
Just because some things can be approximated for varying degrees of usefullness as absorbing and emitting equally well on all frequencies (which the earth is really bad at anyway), does not mean they are stable in temperature.
In popular literature, one of the more under appreciated factors in various models is the moisture carrying capacity of the atmosphere. Basically as the mean atmospheric temperature rises, the more moisture it can carry. This leads to the formation of clouds as different temperature air masses meet, and precipitation when the temperature drops below the dew point.
When you run different climate models, if the clouds form in the stratosphere the overall temperature goes up (more CO2 below the clouds to reflect IR back to the ground) if the clouds form in the troposphere the temperature goes down (clouds create a higher albedo and more energy is reflected into space rather than absorbed).
One of the papers discussing inter-glacial periods expressed essentially the same view as the Harper's article which was that kicking off an ice age would require a tremendous amount of material in the troposphere to reflect sunlight, and a bunch of water to condense into snow to boost the albedo of the surface to prevent it from absorbing solar energy and re-radiating it as heat.
In the 80's, when people looked at the possible after effects of a nuclear exchange between the US and the then USSR, it was suggested that the level of soot and ash thrown into the air would cool the planet to a point to enshroud it into a "nuclear winter." Later papers have looked not at nuclear exchanges but simply volcanic activity or firestorms of one form or another.
The duration of these effects is tied to both the amount of sunlight obstructed and reflected and the resulting weather effects.
Using those models it seems plausible that prior to the presence of humans, if the global temperature rose, it would dry out vast tracks of forests and grasslands in the mid-lattitudes, those tracks would be set on fire by lightning creating a tremendous soot load on the atmosphere. Once the soot layer forms, the temperature falls, and the atmosphere drops its moisture as precipitation. If the temperature is low enough it becomes snow, and gets compacted into ice. The ice become glaciers and it takes a while for the cycle to reset.
For me, it is an interesting aspect of climate dynamics on the water cycle as a feedback loop sort of problem. I have yet to see any paper that suggests the 'venus mode' (runaway greenhouse effect leading to boiling the oceans) is any more or less likely than the 'snowball mode', other than we have a geologic record of the planet going snowball mode on its own several times over the last million years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Geophysical_Year
It's what stimulated ice-core sampling. Before it, 60 years ago, science knew much, much less about climate, let alone climate history. (Plate tectonics was just coming into vogue!) IGY stimulated evidenciary techniques that forced a drastic revision of what we 'knew' before it.
“The rate at which our weather has been warming in recent years could be temporarily slowed down,” they told me. “We don’t know the exact rate at which the sea is now rising. We need long-term world-wide evidence which the International Geophysical Year may give us to assess accurately the changes that seem to be taking place in the ocean and the ice.”
For snow to stop forming at higher latitudes the climate would have to heat up quite a bit.
Can anyone explain this bit to me? Even if the magnetic pole was in the middle of the pacific, wouldn't snow and ice still accumulate at the geographic poles, because that's where the sun is weakest/absent for months?
Not sure if they gave any indication of when the pacific was thought to be the North Pole, but the line of hotspot created underwater mountains from the Siberian traps to Hawaii certainly support a huge amount of movement of the surface of the planet around the core. It doesn’t feel that far fetched, depending on suggested time frame.
I just traced a parallel line (matching the Siberia to Hawaii one) from the North Pole and it does indeed land out in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. Incredible stuff.
The incorrect conclusion that we are headed for an ice age that they came to was likely based on a lack of the information we have now. Namely the fact that the increase in temperature isn't just part of the regular cycle of heating and cooling, we're at the top of a heating trend, but the increase of greenhouse gasses is driving temperatures up more than a process like this will cool it down. There'll have been and likely will continue to be some colder winters in the northern hemisphere for a bit as the process starts to kick in, but the overall temperature trend is still getting warmer and isn't going to stop for something like this.
Here's an interesting map to see average temperature change in different regions. https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/12DA7/production...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shutdown_of_thermohaline_circu...
In reality, the Universe is Electric. The Sun goes through cycles. The Solar System travels through the Galaxy, creating cycles. The Galaxy travels through the Universe, creating cycles.
The cyclical variance of inputs of thermal, solar wind, xrays, cosmic radiation, magnetic fields has & will continue to drive the climate & geological change on Earth & the other planets in the solar system. There are also the unknown unknowns as well.
I don't need to persuade you either. You can have the wrong idea & it does not affect me unless you manage to convince enough people to take away my rights to free speech & property. The "high road" "let's not dignify their arguments" does not work if your models fail to predict anything & if the "Emperor has no clothes"; which is one of the reasons why we are seeing increased censorship.
Re: proof, think of it this way. If this has been so obviously proven, why are you unable to produce any evidence of the proof? Why are the standard climate models wildly divergent, under constant modification, & still unable to predict phenomena? One would expect consistency & predictability, like Newtonian Mechanics or Maxwell's Equations. Until then, it is at best, a tenuous, model that over time is becoming increasingly unbelievable as alternative models better fit the data & have physical experiments backing them. Also, "the map is not the territory".
Even if climate change was not man-made, the effects are already so drastic that we would have to man-make the climate, to offset whatever other forces are threatening life in many areas of the planet.
BTW, ancient people around the world had some interesting & consistent art that looks strikingly like plasma discharge reproduced in laboratories. Maybe they were smarter than what we give them credit for?
The rest of your post is pseudoscientific woo about natural "cycles".
> The rest of your post is pseudoscientific woo about natural "cycles".
Please enlighten me on what "real science" is then. If there are no cycles in the climate, is it purely driven by randomness, exponential or asymptotic growth? How did Earth's climate even get into a state of stasis? Why do ice ages & warm periods occur & cycle back? Why/how do warming & cooling trends eventually reverse?
Does science not utilize models? Is there not experiments & observations to back up models? What about the Philosophy of Science? Does our preconceptions influence how we model phenomena?
There are many fish populations which are on the brink -- but not to worry, we don't need to worry about overfishing, fish populations are cyclical. We don't need to worry about CFCs, the ozone hole is clearly just part of an atmospheric cycle.
Rather than breezy armchair theories, about how about finding some plausible evidence that climate scientists are making this all up?
Too easy.
The lack of accurate prediction capabilities of their models. Also the lack of consistency with their models. In contrast, Solar Physicist Valentina Zharkova accurately predicted the sun going into a minimum using a Double Dynamo model with 4 eigenvectors which cohere & interfere. Her model also accurately predicted the cooling that occurred in the past few years due to the approaching solar minimum. In her free time, she created a more accurate model than anything the IPCC ever produced.
https://accordingtohoyt.com/2018/12/12/the-latest-on-the-dou...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NI1bQe8I4A
The lack of experimental evidence. The Electric Universe theory has experimental evidence with plasma interacting with atmospheric gasses. Also experimental evidence of cosmic radiation with heating water, seeding clouds, etc.
See Henrik Svensmark's reproducable physical experiments. It's not just a bunch of computer code which ultimately means nothing without experiment or predictive capabilities.
https://principia-scientific.org/strong-evidence-that-svensm...
Despite Henrik Svensmark having compelling physical experimental evidence, which the IPCC models lack, he somehow lost his institutional funding. He is now independently funded.
Perhaps the science is not "settled" after all...Is that what the authorities told Galileo when he dared to claim that the Earth was not the center of the Universe?
The funny thing is that the Koch brothers funded Berkeley physicist and climate change skeptic Rich Muller a few years back. Muller, being an egotistical physicist, was sure that he was smarter than the muddle headed climatologists and would disprove their models and find all sorts of errors. After a year, Muller wrote up his summary ... find that indeed, AGW was a real thing, and the various correction factors that had been used by climatologists for thins like urban heat island effect were both justified and reasonable.
So, to make this more concise, why do you find that Solar Physicist Dr. Valentina Zharkova is to be trusted than the IPCC reports? You claim her model is far more accurate than anything the IPCC has done ... yet your link says her model was presented in 2015. Second, the IPCC models have be wrong only in that they have intentionally been conservative in their estimates (for political reasons). If you believe that the IPCC models have overestimated warming effects, then you have bought into a popular lie.
The are many other problems with your claims, but it would take more time than I care to invest in it considering the information is already presented in the IPCC reports and you refuse to accept them.