Today I lost my internship at Facebook for the summer
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I've never understood why as a country we are willing to pay for the education of international students (through public universities), but then make it exceedingly difficult for many of them to stay in the country after school. These are highly-skilled people who want to work here, start companies here, and pay a huge amount of taxes here.
Which I'm describing in a way that sounds ridiculous, because I think it is. It's ridiculous squared to imply that I (or anyone) can infer how someone else's putative system of values works.
I have a distaste for Facebook, although I still use it, kind of like I would for an unpleasant person at work. But that has nothing to do with principles, which I don't admit to having.
My point was people who have benefitted from our country's historic immigration practices are decrying the continuation of those practices.
Those are the practices they probably benefited from.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalization_Act_of_1790
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Ac...
You're on a soccer team. You object to your teammates refusing to let the fans or the opposing team have a chance to kick the ball. You see this as being spiteful, since everybody should be able to share the experience of kicking the ball. Meanwhile, your teammates are muttering about how you are disloyal and really don't belong on the team. They want to succeed together, even if that means excluding the fans and the opposing team.
Being drafted by birth doesn't change the fact that your peers expect you to support the team. They want to win, as a team, without compromise.
George Washington didn't share ammunition with the British, even though it would have been a kind gesture. Was he spiteful for not sharing? How about Truman refusing to share nuclear weapons with the rest of the world?
What kind of world view does it take to see everyone as the enemy?
I suspect you do have an enemy. It might be rural people, southerners, Christians, or people who want to win bigly.
Evolution made humans behave this way. People who supported their tribe against the neighboring tribes got to leave more offspring. Even those killed in battle effectively got more offspring, due to DNA shared with close relatives who benefited from winning the wars.
An interesting take on it: https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anythin...
I am not at war with any of those people, although I might disagree with them and oppose their policies. There's a difference between an enemy and someone we disagree with.
We do in fact see complaints about this in sports, particularly with national teams. People want their chance at stardom, which is reduced if shared with the entire rest of the world.
If you flag the bad comment, that alerts moderators. In egregious cases, email hn@ycombinator.com so we can look at it sooner. But starting a new off-topic subthread about how shitty a shitty comment was merely makes the thread worse, so please don't.
The principle still applies though. It's a swerve into a generic controversy to which people's responses will be indignant and predictable. There's no curiosity in such discussion, and therefore it's off topic for HN.
I wrote about this recently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20013092. If you read that and still think there's something I haven't addressed, I'd be curious to hear what it is.