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From a very broad moral perspective, their human rights violations are legion[1] including large open air internment camps for ethnic/religious minorities like the Uyghur[2], political imprisonment[3], alleged organ harvesting of prisoners[4], supporting North Korea ...

From a purely tech perspective, state-sponsored hacking[5] and IP theft[6] are common.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_China

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_re-education_camps

[3] https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2018/country-chapters/china...

[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_harvesting_from_Falun_Go...

[5] https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/state-hacking-1220201...

[6] https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/28/1-in-5-companies-say-china-s...

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Please don't do the whole list-of-links-on-flamewar-topic thing on HN. It's internet boilerplate. Anything that predictable is off topic here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Come on if human right were really an issue for the US, Saudi Arabia which oppress half of its population, which is an absolute monarchy (you know the medieval version), which has absolutely no respect of basic human rights would not be one of the best US allies.

> From a very broad moral perspective, their human rights violations are legion

This judgement coming from the country with the highest incarceration rate, criminalized abortion, caged immigrants, historic systematic racism, legal bribery (lobbying), genrrymandering electoral system, countless invasions with disastrous results in the middle east, africa & asia

Don't get me wrong but outside the US everyone is wondering what is the moral high ground?

It's whataboutism to mention that one has 1.5x more absolute and 5x more per-capita prisoners than a place one calls a police state.

Sorry, but accusing others of whataboutism doesn't detract from your own double standards:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism#Criticism

Others have criticized the usage of accusations of whataboutism by American news outlets, arguing that the accusation whataboutism has been used to simply "deflect" criticisms of human rights abuses perpetrated by the United States or its allies.

They argue that the usage of the term almost exclusively by American outlets is a double standard, and that moral accusations made by powerful countries are merely a pretext to punish their geopolitical rivals in the face of their own wrongdoing.

In fact, invoking 'whataboutism' in the way you have done is a misuse and a deliberate attempt to deflect.

Those are all things the USA has done in its past, and currently holds 2.3 million in prison with prison slavery legalized. Some of those are just "alleged" too.

It kinda proves OP's point that Americans would be so outraged about somebody else violating the rights of muslims..

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