I remember being a wide-eyed teenager that would get hyped up into a fever pitch by this kind of game system marketing.
I remember being a wide-eyed teenager that would get hyped up into a fever pitch by this kind of game system marketing.
Who has an 8k tv anyway?
For 8K to make any sense you'd need a 100'' at least which is massive and prohibitive.
IMO HDR is a much bigger improvement than 4K.
Why isn’t HDR color moving very fast? I feel like I’d rather have more color resolution than spatial resolution given the choice...
As a current PS4 owner, I’d definitely prefer 60+ fps baseline then 8k resolution.
EDIT: Maybe they're planning to go the way Nvidia is doing now with things like Deep Learning Super Sampling and try to scale up content in intelligent ways. I'm not sure how well that would work with realistically priced console hardware or what kind of results it would produce, maybe someone more familiar can comment on it.
There are a couple games on Xbox One X that support 4k60 - the one people care about is Forza Motorsport 7. From what I can tell, the Xbox One X can actually support 4k60, but I imagine it's a pain in the ass to accomplish and most studios don't bother since it's a niche market.
It's just a cost factor more than anything, if you spend $1200+ on video cards you can pull it off on PCs today with most major titles, but that price alone is several times what top of the line consoles run. That price is rapidly dropping, but just isn't there yet. As such, bragging about 8k support on a console that's probably not going to cost that much more seems... unrealistic to say the least.
Then, interested parties, like GP, could take up the mantle.
Xbox One X supports this now. Here's a good list of titles that take advantage of it: https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/xbox-one/xbox-one-x-enhance...
My theory on tech adoption is that the advantages of some new piece of tech have to be _immediately_ obvious to the average person and to such a large degree that they would actually care. E.g.:
* Records -> Tapes: smaller, portable.
* Tapes -> CDs: obvious sound quality improvements, never degrades, don't have to rewind/fast-forward.
* CDs -> iPod et al: "you can carry hundreds of CDs in your pocket."
* VHS -> DVD: just say "it does for movies what CDs did for music" and that's all it takes to convince someone of the benefits.
* DVD -> Blu-ray: now it gets a little dicier. Yeah it's an obvious jump in quality but a lot of people just don't care.
* Blu-ray -> UHD (just the resolution aspect): the average consumer isn't the most discriminating in terms of source quality, and even to someone who really cares it can be a bit tough to tell the difference (talking about movie transfers here, in particular). Generally the biggest benefit I've found here when going from Blu-ray to UHD is when the movie's existing Blu-ray transfer is 10+ years old and just terrible. The fact that the studio simply did a new scan is what brings out the improvement, and it would look pretty damn good on Blu-ray (just look at any Blu-ray sourced from a 4K scan).
* SDR -> HDR: "the colors are better, man." Forget trying to sell this to your average consumer, even if they notice they won't care.
4K -> 8K? It's really out there as far as diminishing returns goes. It's not going to be embraced in any meaningful way by the average consumer. It'll be ubiquitous simply because hardware manufactures are eventually going to make nothing but 8K TVs, but the average person probably won't be able to tell it from 4K, perhaps even 1080p.
That's why every "Facebook killer" dies on the vine. They just aren't better enough.
That's why every Bitcoin killer fails to displace Bitcoin as number 1.
Etc
It’s just slow in the Microsoft world.
Stereoscopic rendering (e.g. 2x4K) can far more expensive than 8K rendering despite brung half the pixels because all of the non-pixel-related scene rendering calculations have to be re-done to account for the two different camera positions.
I'm talking about supporting multiple local players simultaneously. (Apologies if this wasn't obvious enough.)
>SSD
Yeah that reminds me how far behind console gaming is.
Therefore it is less about how behind/ahead they are and more about creating a consistent platform and setting a price that is comfortable for the mass market appeal they're aiming for.
By contrast a GeForce RTX 2060 starts at $350. Hardly comparing like with like price wise. Even their "high end" X-Box One X is only $400. And we're missing CPU, RAM, SSD, motherboard, case, and Windows license and already $50 shy of that.
I recently upgraded it to 1tb, from 512gb.
I also realized that my systems have SSDs in them no matter how optimistic I feel about my future spending capabilities. Matter of priorities.
I didn't find this SSD part of the teaser compelling, but I'm looking forward to the 8K pipeline in 2023 I guess. Will my short-throw projector support 8K? Will my internet connection support 8K streaming without restrictive bandwidth limits? Will my cellular connection support 8K streaming without consequences for my otherwise casual use? Will there be a lot of content? Will I actually enjoy any of this more?