How Fiat Chrysler’s Proposed Merger With Renault Crashed
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wind back the clock to Daimler Chrysler and youll see there was nothing but mistrust from the start. German execs wanted an inroad into an american market segment that their luxury brands couldnt target at the time, and Chrysler wanted cash and technology. In the end, Daimler wound up with almost nothing in terms of IP or licensing, and Chrysler got the E class for its charger and challenger. Right down to the windows that roll down when you exit and enter by a few centimeters.
Fiat was at least pragmatic about its interaction and kept Chrysler at arms length. they got the GM fiat small platform developed almost entirely for them as they pumped cash into chrysler. The bitter irony here is that Chrysler once partnered with Maserati to get them off the ground, and now the same group is basically taking them to the cleaners. the promasters made it to the states as basically rebadged Ducatos basically at cost. Chrysler saw very limited revenue from it.
Chryslers other big problem is they are market-blind. Their strong suits are already dominated by fiat. Americans want reliable cheap cars that are good on gas, but things like the Charger RT and Hellcat challenger are loss-leaders that arent doing much of anything but filling press releases and patching the bald spots on the dwindling boomer market that remembers hellcat (and can afford it.)
Challenger/Charger are FCA's pony cars kept to compete with Camaro and Mustang. Combine the two FCA cars with their sibling the 300 and that was nearly two hundred thousand sales, not bad for an old platform. What keeps them going, they don't get stuck with the same boring colors year to year and get other tweaks people want from them. However they are one of the biggest risk factors for FCA too as they are vulnerable to fuel prices.
Renault simply is not a good fit because getting Renault means taking France too and that would pretty much sink them in legacy costs and employment structures. The better opportunity is to look to both China but locally to move East into the long gone Warsaw pact states.
FCA's real loss was the passing of Marchionne before he could do an orderly and planned handing off control to a picked successor.
(Owned by Renault and VW Group respectively, for those unfamiliar with those marquees.)
The gas is not cheap here in comparison with Russia and Belarus, but is waaay cheaper than what it costs in the eurozone States with the exception of Germany (diesel is also cheap in Spain btw).
Challenger/Charger/Mustang is mostly popular with rich kids who are spending their parents money on gas.
I own a Scion and love it, though had to import car parts from Russia as Scions were never sold in the EU and Russians get used Japanese cars almost for free. Scions are normal Japanese Toyotas with a steering wheel on the left side.
How is FCA not making a profit off of them, especially the Hellcat? The platform that they ride on has to be paid off by now due to its age, and the Hellcat sells at a premium compared to the other products in the FCA lineup, with the exception of high trim Ram 1500/2500/3500's.
Dodge and Chrysler brands sales suffer primarily because they lack SUVs.
Also, typically most companies only want to buy Jeep when looking at FCA because it’s the real money maker from what I hear. I wonder if a merger would ultimately lead to companies like Chrysler being shuttered due to redundancy. That’d be a big loss of jobs.
And on another side note it’s intriguing to think about a company that would have spanned four countries and how so many different personalities and cultures would have been able to work together.
The Ram trucks are 3rd behind Ford and Chevy in sales, but only very slightly behind Chevy. And way ahead of number 4, Toyota trucks. I imagine that's attractive also.
https://jalopnik.com/the-entire-dodge-car-lineup-is-old-as-h...
If the latter, it seems like a strange feature to have/want.
Seems dangerous - to not be able to accelerate out of a collision in an emergency if that is the safest thing to do.
I use it in 30 and 40mph zones, where there's a lot of traffic, speed cameras etc., and sticking the limiter on means you're not going to go over the limit.
"It is also possible to override the speed limiter by fully depressing the accelerator pedal beyond the resistance point."
But if your options are hard breaking or hard accelerating, it's easy to see when hard acceleration is better - when someone is immediately behind you and the road ahead is clear, and then for example someone swerving into your lane from the side
If someone swerves into your lane you accelerate... into them? Unless its a really wide road (12 lanes?) where you have plenty of time to see that person, and somehow know they're going to pull into your lane, but you can't pull into another lane because Theres too much traffic. As I said, contrived examples.
(wasn't quoting you btw, just put best in inverted commas, as there's a lot of different interpretations for best)
Obviously not. Accelerate out of their way.
Well I didn't think so either, I still don't see how it would work though, if they swerve into your lane ahead of you, you should brake, if they were behind you, you probably wouldn't see them, so there's a very narrow range where you can both see them and plausibly argue that accelerating is a reasonable option, and even then it seems to me at the very least, braking would be no worse.
I find lorries start broadcasting what they're going to do quite early, that doesn't mean they're going to pull into a space you're already occupying, otherwise I would be dead many times over.
I made the mistake of buying French cars for years after that (because they were cheap, and I guess I kind of am too!), but eventually learned my lesson.
Meanwhile, what does FIAT make in Italy these days?
FIAT get cars made in the former Eastern Europe, slap an Italian flag on and pass off the product as having Italian design. That is what motorists buy into, the Italian style and not the Italian workmanship. They don't care if the tin box is made in Timbuktu, so long as it expresses their personality in some way then they will buy it.
Italy has gone the way of the British auto sector, they have lost the ability to have Italian companies making mass market cars in actual Italy. Sure there are few thousand Ferraris and other lifestyle accessories churned out but those FIAT 500 cars for the ladies are not made in Italy. Those days are over.
Aside from the poor communication between Renault and Nissan, the proposed deal strikes me as over pushed by the FCA management. It went down with the French establishment as well as the post-Brexit British idea of outsourcing the NHS to American private healthcare providers. A complete non-starter because the management was not a cultural fit. Having Renault thrown in with some brash American led FCA was not on the table. The publicity for the merger was over-eager, as if that would make it happen by making it appear the deal was as good as done.
It is important to understand how the 'captains of industry' work. They are capitalists, not Marxist social workers. They don't care about making jobs or even delivering a product for the regular working/middle class person. They are not cast from the same stuff as Henry Ford. They get their bonuses for merger and acquisition activity and move on to the next deal.
Quite a bit, it turns out:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Fiat_Group_assembly_si...
The wider group makes Maserati and you don't see many of them in your supermarket car park.
The 500x is not to be confused with the multitude of other 500 models. As in the ones you actually see.
As for the Panda:
"The decision to manufacture the car in Italy, instead of manufacturing it with the cheaper workforce in Tychy, Poland, was taken because of the agreement between Italian Prime Minister Mario Monti and Fiat directors not to close down any of Fiat's plants in Italy."
Almost forgot about the Ducato van.
This gets more interesting as it is a joint venture with PSA. There are Peugeot and Citroen versions so exactly how a merger would work out with Renault could be interesting. Renault partner with Mercedes in the category.
So a few thousand Maserati things, the vans and a few cars kept being made in Italy so as to keep the government happy. It's a lot but not a lot.
Anyway, it is just final assembly we are talking about. Where do the components come from? The final bit of putting the jigsaw puzzle is what we all think a car factory is but there is always 10x the jobs in the component suppliers. Get rid of the factory though and the local demand for the components is gone. I suspect all the components business for FIAT has moved over to Poland and elsewhere for the same reasons - people don't have rentseekers demanding vast sums out of them every month in these 'lower wage' economies.
http://listino.motori24.ilsole24ore.com/auto-prezzi/classifi...
And the 500X is the best-selling version of the 500.