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>> $35,000 (£27,500) per night.

That is cheaper than the multi-room suites on board the A380. It's cheaper than renting many boats.

Or maybe this is a trick. How long is a "night" on space station? Only an hour or so iirc. Maybe they get back to earth and get a surprise Expedia bill on their cc.

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I've heard that the laws of your home apply in space, so some Californian should get a 30 day lease then force them to evict them :D

A great way to become the first human to be Spaced.

Getting someone evicted in California might take 2 years in court. For it to be that hard, they have to be in residence for over 2 years. There are all kinds of shenanigans lawyers can pull to draw out such processes.

Evictions usually happen much faster than that, like on the orders of days or weeks. See https://www.attorneydavid.com/blog/how-long-does-it-take-to-...

I've spoken to Bay Area attorneys about this. Non-disputed evictions take 4-6 weeks. That's non-disputed. That's on the long side! Other jurisdictions take a few days to 2 weeks for non-disputed. An additional month for disputed evictions is an average, so that's up to 10 weeks or so. It can drag out for much longer. It depends on how good the case is for each side.

In the parts of Canada I've lived the rules very much bias in favour of the resident, based on the logic that the cost to the landlord is financial but the cost to the residents is safety, health, etc.

If I recall, in some places you can't even evict in the winter. Same applies to utilities: it's illegal to disconnect heat (whether gas or electricity) in the winter even if for non payment.

Personally I prefer protecting residents at the cost of some people who exploit the system.

This is the logic behind California's laws.

>An additional month for disputed evictions is an average

Because we know in advance the tenant can never win.

Taking 4 months to get the tenant out isn't exactly a "win" for the landlord.

State laws wouldn't apply. Only Federal.

California would find a way.

Most likely that "way" would be supporting private space station developers with various subsidies. Though it's fun to imagine the "Singapore scenario" where California goes independent due to some spat over space rights, with Musk becoming a space general in the rebellion ;-)

Whatever happen to the satellite California was going to launch to study climate change. Is that still happening?

That is not unique to California. Most states have a lengthy eviction process.

$35K per night is oddly cheap, yeah. I think the ISS operates in the neighborhood of $6M per crewmember-day (where a day is 24 hours).

You're correct that there's no real night on the ISS. It sits in low earth orbit (LEO) and circles the Earth every 90 minutes. 45 minutes of sunlight, 45 minutes of shade.

I wonder what the marginal cost per crewmember is. On the one hand, there's a lot of ground control infrastructure that supports the ISS that doesn't care how many crewmembers there are. On the other, the cost of resupply missions is probably directly proportional to the number of mouths.

Maybe it's $35k per night, but meals cost extra (a lot extra).

The trick is that (like national park camping spots) all accommodations are gone in seconds on https://recreation.gov

Launch cost extra.

And atmospheric entry 10x extra. Unless you want to go the "bank account is drained" route, in which case they boot you out with feathers glued to your arms and wish you best of luck.

Yes, but won’t it costs millions to get there?

"These companies are likely to charge any private astronaut a similar "taxi fare" to what they intend to charge Nasa for its astronauts - close to $60m per flight."

But that money wouldn't be going to Nasa. They will get rides on private rockets. And so if they are going to be spending many millions on getting there, Nasa should be charging much much more than 40k/night. A million/night would be more than reasonable imho given what tourists will already be spending to get there.

Or there will be some surprise parking/docking fees.

What about an oxygen consumption fee?

No fee, it's BYOO

It's included in the $35k: https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1136994156595859456

It's always extra for wifi

The wifi (and they do literally have wifi on ISS) is $50/GB in this announcement. Considering the resource constraints on ISS, perfectly reasonable. Generous, even.

Yet another reminder of exactly how horrible my cellphone plan is.

Exactly, you pay much more for a GB outside the EU when roaming.

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