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As Linus from LinusTechTips pointed out, if they had just bundled the whole thing for 6k with an option to buy the monitor alone for 5k (thus "saving" 1k) people would probably be less angry.

I don't really see the point of getting angry however: for once Apple is trying to charge 1k$ extra for a thing that you don't really need and that you can easily and happily live without.

Just use a compatible one that you can get for like $100 or less off Amazon.

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It doesn't come with a stand, and isn't VESA compatible without an additional $200 adapter, and it's all proprietary.

It's just such a ridiculous thing to nickle and dime, or in this case, hundreds and hundrends and hundreds of dollars.

It's not justifiable and just looks like continued contempt for the consumer.

There's no way the stand costs $800 more than their VESA adapter, which means they're taking the piss. Most monitors include a stand and many include VESA functionality for free.

Apple have produced a monitor that places an arguably otherwise unobtainable level of capability within reach of a budget conscious Apple fan who would actually save up and buy this. One for whom it's not a mindless line item purchase. For whom it's a once-in-three-years or even once-in-a-decade purchase. It is a prosumer price. Brilliant.

I can't justify one, but a couple of my photography buddies could. It'll sting them, and they'll have to skimp and save for a while, and it won't be at launch, but give it a year or so of saving hard...

Except it's pretty useless without either a stand or a mount. And instead of including a stand one for free like everyone else, the price is eye watering to anyone who actually cares about price.

And by doing so, they've made the monitor pricing look like bullshit because it's effectively unusable without overpriced proprietary bullshit.

And if you were to sum up what emotion "effectively unusable without overpriced proprietary bullshit" is going to make someone feel...

If anything, the $200 VESA mount you absolutely need is more egregious.

but having a non standardized mount is so revolutionary.

Why do you make such a snide remark on a reasonable statement? $200 for a metal cross with 4 screw holes is egregious no matter whether it has a picture of a partly eaten apple on it or not. This is unrelated to any other qualities the monitor might have, it is still nothing but a VESA mount which could be included in the box or sold for a token price. They'd make a profit if they sold it at $20.

> Why do you make such a snide remark on a reasonable statement?

Because the snide remark was agreeing with the reasonable statement, and mocking Apple.

Yes. It's odd that they wouldn't use a vesa mount if they are targeting this market that often uses custom display mount grids. Or at at least include the bracket in the packaging. You can use a vesa mount and still support custom mounting brackets. Like my Dell 4ks all support vesa but use an alternative hook to actually connect and remove the monitor from the base.

> a thing that you don't really need

Don't underestimate how people feel about having a complete Apple-design desktop solution. Eg: people are also falling out about Apple selling a LG thunderbolt display as companion for their Macbook instead of a proper Apple-design display.

Will that display work the same when hooked to a different stand? Yes.

BTW I'm currently using a 15" macbook pro hooked to an old 24" 1920x1200 HP display (using DVI connection via a Thunderbolt docking station). I can't really complain, I am able to do whatever I need with this monitor.

For those people it's not just about functionality, but purely the looks. They know a different monitor will work just fine. For them having a different brand monitor on the desk next to a apple screen/device would be like tiling your bathroom halves with 2 completely different kind of tiles without regard of the overall look. Of course most of those people also keep complaining about how expensive Apply stuff is.

There's no compatible one unless you buy a $200 vesa mount though.

Unless a $50 compatible vesa mount is released too, you know?

Or a $100 Chinese clone stand.

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