Also interested. Could you describe the process?
See I wasn't sure if I lost it in the couch in the living room, the office, or the bedroom. This got me within a few feet.
Is that something Google's not doing with the data, but could? (E.g. they don't because their maps don't show most houses precisely enough or whatever, so it wouldn't be useful?)
Or is it relying on the fact that you are triangulating or similar from the known exact position of your WiFi routers or similar down to the inch, and Google doesn't have any way of knowing that?
By the way, I'm pretty sure I've seen that Google's advertising targeting is only allowed to use "neighborhood level" location, which is designed to be coarse enough to not allow specifying individual people.
I'm pretty sure they've both been caught with their hands in the cookie jar doing things they swore they never would.
If it's happened time and time again, it should be easy to pull up a source, right?
When Google bought the advertising network DoubleClick in 2007, Google founder Sergey Brin said that privacy would be the company’s “number one priority when we contemplate new kinds of advertising products.”
https://www.propublica.org/article/google-has-quietly-droppe...
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/nov/14/google-be...
https://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2014/03/13/26google.h33.h...
"While the allegations by the plaintiffs are explosive, it’s the sworn declarations of Google representatives in response to their claims that have truly raised the eyebrows of observers and privacy experts. Contrary to the company’s earlier public statements, Google representatives acknowledged in a September motion to dismiss the plaintiffs’ request for class certification that the company’s consumer-privacy policy applies to Apps for Education users. Thus, Google argues, it has students’ (and other Apps for Education users’) consent to scan and process their emails."
"In November, Kyle C. Wong, a lawyer representing Google, also argued in a formal declaration submitted to the court in opposition to the plaintiffs’ motion for class certification that the company’s data-mining practices are widely known, and that the plaintiffs’ complaints that the scanning and processing of their emails was done secretly are thus invalid. Mr. Wong cited extensive media coverage about Google’s data mining of Gmail consumer users’
>Mr. Wong’s inclusion of the following reference to the disclosure provided to students at the University of Alaska particularly caught the attention of privacy advocates: The University of Alaska (“UA”) has a “Google Mail FAQs,” which asks, “I hear that Google reads my email. Is this true?” The answer states, “They do not ‘read’ your email per se. For use in targeted advertising on their other sites, if your email is not encrypted, software (not a person) does scan your email and compile keywords for advertising. For example, if the software looks at 100 emails and identifies the word ‘Doritos’ or ‘camping’ 50 times, they will use that data for advertising on their other sites.” “The fact that Google put this in their declaration means we take it as true,” said Ms. Barnes of the privacy watchdog group EPIC. Google’s sworn court statements reveal that the company has violated student trust by using students’ education records for profit.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/02/0...
https://www.eff.org/press/releases/google-deceptively-tracks...
- it is opt in,
- it can be deleted by me
- is not given to anyone else
For all my trashing of Google lately (check my comment history) I actually expect and belive them to defend my raw data in a way that few others are able to. It all boils down to incentives:
- as long as they keep the data between them and me they can sell targeted ads again and again. If the data leaks then others can skip the middle man.
- as long as they keep their reputation as nice guys that is an immense advantage.
Now this might of course be changing, so everyone should consider if they personally trust this arrangement going for the future:
- it seems some part of the organization is tightening the screws around the Chrome team to squeeze out more revenue.
- of the data is available there is always the risk of attacks both cyber attacks as well as legal attacks.
>In going through a set of privacy popups put out in May by Facebook, Google, and Microsoft, the researchers found that the first two especially feature “dark patterns, techniques and features of interface design mean to manipulate users…used to nudge users towards privacy intrusive options.”
https://techcrunch.com/2018/06/27/study-calls-out-dark-patte...
Maybe it is not clear but I was talking about location history.
At least I think I had to opt in to that at some point.
For example:
>Ways that Google tricks users into sharing location
Android users are pushed through a variety of techniques:
Deceptive click-flow: The click-flow when setting up an Android device pushes users into enabling “Location History” without being aware of it.
Hidden default settings: When setting up a Google account, the Web & App activity settings are hidden behind extra clicks and enabled by default..
Misleading and unbalanced information: Users are not given sufficient information when presented with choices, and are misled about what data is collected and how it is used. Information about location data being used for advertising, for example, is hidden away behind extra clicks.
Repeated nudging: Users are repeatedly asked to turn on “Location History” when using different Google services even if they decided against this feature when setting up their phone.
Bundling of services and lack of granular choices: If the user wants features such as Google Assistant and photos sorted by location, Google turns on invasive location tracking.
https://www.forbrukerradet.no/side/google-manipulates-users-...
More alarmingly, when users attempted to turn off location tracking:
>In a wonderfully clear example of “dark patterns” designed to mislead users and retain control over their data, Google continues tracking your location even when you turn off Location History and are told that “the places you go are no longer stored.” Google says it tells users, but its disclosure is the bare minimum and users are discouraged from further interference with data collection.
https://techcrunch.com/2018/08/13/google-keeps-a-history-of-...
[1] sometimes outside if they think they can argue it to be a novel situation
This isn’t a controversial point, it’s well observed.
Their only goal is the make money - by definition. It is not that people assume that they are evil - just that they will follow on things that will earn them money.
Reminds me of Superjail, which is an uber-maximum security jail inside a volcano, that is itself inside a second volcano
By my data, do you mean data from Google Android Device Configuration Service?
If you're logged into Chrome or GSuite tools from desktop locations, I just wonder how useful the data from those other products would be, if it even has location data.
I'm downloading my data archive to check it out...