Rognan robotic furniture for small space living
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I've never slept that well (frequent sleepless nights before switchting to the ground) and my aches almost vanished.
I got rid of my bed since I didn't need it anymore and realized how much space it took (I live in a single room in a shared appartment). Now my smallish room seems so much bigger, I literally can't even use all that space efficiently (I live quite minimalistic).
Sure, this isn't for everyone, but overall I can't stop thinking that something I took for granted (everyone needs a bed, right?) is in fact nothing but an accessoire that, in retrospect, even decresed my quality of sleep, therefore even my quality of life.
> I've never slept that well (frequent sleepless nights before switchting to the ground) and my aches almost vanished.
> I got rid of my bed since I didn't need it anymore and realized how much space it took (I live in a single room in a shared appartment). Now my smallish room seems so much bigger, I literally can't even use all that space efficiently (I live quite minimalistic).
> Sure, this isn't for everyone, but overall I can't stop thinking that something I took for granted (everyone needs a bed, right?) is in fact nothing but an accessoire that, in retrospect, even decresed my quality of sleep, therefore even my quality of life.
Do you sleep directly on the floor with no padding whatsoever? I tend to sleep on my side or stomach and have never been able to sleep well on a bare floor.
I slept on my side or stomach most of my life, it was the only comfortable way to sleep for me. I started to sleep on the ground just like that and guess what, the first nights were horrible. Once I started to sleep in different positions, everything changed. My theory is that there is no real feedback on a mattress/very soft ground. I can sleep like I want and it will be comfortable, even though it might be "bad sleeping posture". If I do the same on the ground, there is no padding, my body gets real feedback and reacts with pain in bad "sleeping postures". But what does the pain tell me? In one way: Sleeping on the floor is bad because it hurts. In another way: My way of sleeping is bad because it hurts, so I need to change it.
An example: Sleeping on the stomach on a mattress is still somewhat "comfy" for me (even though I don't like sleeping on a mattress). Sleeping on the stomach on the ground is a no go, because my weight presses my chest against the ground, making breathing way harder than sleeping on my back with no weight on my chest. I just got so used sleeping on my chest that sleeping on the back was horrible at first, but once I got used to it I felt more replenished the mornings after. So if I sleep on my stomach like in this example, is sleeping on the floor bad because I can't breathe properly, or is sleeping on a mattress bad, because I don't get the necessary feedback to realise it affects my breathing? I guess that is something everyone needs to decide for himself, but for me the answer is: sleeping on a mattress is bad.
But there’s certainly nothing wrong with a futon you roll up (or a sofa bed or Murphy bed) if you’re short of space.
I like a good futon and use one at home (on a platform bed).
It’s an excellent method of birth control; no bed that is. The work stations don’t help either.
If that is strange you'd find it stranger to know that I am Indian and sleeping on floor is both tradition and sometimes compulsion due to poverty (though I was never poor). I was fine with it all these years and don't know what changed recently.
But the result (or at least what I can say about myself) is that our range of motion gets worse every year, which ultimately leads to aches, pain and even worse stuff.
If one of the main arguments (that I hear all the time) against sleeping and sitting on the floor is "but you have to get up from the floor all the time, I couldn't do that", I'd argue that proves my point. Altough its might be just a biased gut feeling.
Also, does it affect your ability to sleep on a regular bed without issues?
It does affect my ability to sleep on a regular bed a lot (I sleep in her bed when I'm at her place). It's super uncomfortable for me, I don't feel as rested the next morning and she tells me that I am snoring very loudly and frequently in her bed. Sometimes I sleep on her floor as well, and according to her I my snoring almost disappears on the floor.
Honestly - the risk of a fire in your own apartment is drastically higher than the risk of it being engulfed in a fire caused outside of it.
we are already in a "housing crisis" that will only escalate rapidly as pressure from the net-influx of people moving in compresses living space. this is what ikea is talking about in the first minute of this video (which at one point was the link): https://ikea.today/ikea-explores-future-living-for-the-many/
your mental framework of "why would I, a wealthy person who can afford more, want this?" is basically a mistake of making it about you. its not.
The places with a "housing crisis" are uber-wealthy neighborhoods or cities like SF or London, the crisis is not caused by incoming refugees but by high salaries, and yeah, it's rich people who live in those tiny spaces. Comparatively, poor people live in more affordable neighborhoods.
https://www.citymetric.com/skylines/mapping-uk-s-housing-wea...
By using a motorized motion, you have more freedom in the design, and you can likely move heavier load. Not everyone is necessarily fit enough to push, squat, or reach some part.
But this is a good point and I hope you can use the system without power, because it would suck to sleep on the ground because you have a power outage.
My point is mostly that the robotic part seems to be slapped on to make the whole thing seem more futuristic, when in reality it is just a clever design for a folding bed.
On top of that, consider accessibility. I'd be mostly fine hauling this around, but I know some people that weigh literally half what I do and others with joint or coordination issues. They would have trouble.
Finally, this system is probably going to last way longer. Humans are really awful at using things carefully, while a mechanical engineer with some servos can control exactly where the force is. The "grease the rails and push" plan is great for getting it started, but then you've dumped a bunch of energy into the system and it'll have to be dissipated by running the thing into a physical stop, which is a recipe for vibration and stress that'd shake it to pieces in months. A controlled system can move the unit smoothly and carefully slow it down at the end of travel. I bet this is cleanly in Vimes Theory of Boots territory.
Is a motorised sofa bed any more depressing than a regular sofa bed? Or is it more the implication they see such furniture as a growth market?
Reminds me of Korben Dallas' place.
[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzOHhzk7zJ0
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZFH4wCLVXY
That's not necessary with the right allocation of shared spaces. Are workspaces "shrinking" because more people work in coworking spaces?
Designers should stop pretending that prison-cell living is something desireable, it's not.
I am not sure that it actually exists, but at some point, someone is going to be crushed by its moving furniture or trapped in the sofa.
If you live in a proper city, like much of Europe, space is at a serious premium.
i.e. if you're willing to pay $2000 to get space for a home office or exercise space, that'll get you a pretty fancy folding bed - but it's a fraction of the cost of an extra bedroom.