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Interesting perspective! Do you have any insights whether it would work - or could be modified to work - under adversarial behavior? I.e. assuming that a fraction of the nodes are byzantine.

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Very good question. I will have to think about it. Will get back to you later.

>"Whenever I go to a conference and I discover that there will be a presentation about Byzantine fault tolerance, I always feel an immediate, unshakable sense of sadness, kind of like when you realize that bad things can happen to good people, or that Keanu Reeves will almost certainly make more money than you over arbitrary time scales. Watching a presentation on Byzantine fault tolerance is similar to watching a foreign film from a depressing nation that used to be controlled by the Soviets — the only difference is that computers and networks are constantly failing instead of young Kapruskin being unable to reunite with the girl he fell in love with while he was working in a coal mine beneath an orphanage that was atop a prison that was inside the abstract concept of World War II."

James Mickens, 'The Saddest Moment' - https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/mickens/files/thesaddestmo...

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James Mickens, Associate Professor, Authority On All Things, Harvard - https://mickens.seas.harvard.edu/wisdom-james-mickens

> or that Keanu Reeves will almost certainly make more money than you over arbitrary time scales.

Wtf? Reeves is a rather kind man who had some horrific life tragedies and yet managed a successful career (with no scandal). Why would I be sad about that?

He's being funny.

"I always feel an immediate, unshakable sense of sadness" - presents a personal and serious context - "kind of like when you realize that bad things can happen to good people," - reinforces the seriousness and invites the reader to join the writer in worthy feelings of moral empathy - "or that Keanu Reeves will almost certainly make more money than you over arbitrary time scales." - then punctures it with base motive of bitter jealousy, so you get conflicted by the two very different versions of sadness being presented as the same thing.

Structurally, it is not far off Shakespeare's lawyer joke from King Henry VI;

JACK - when I am king,– as king I will be,–

ALL - God save your majesty!

JACK - I thank you, good people:– there shall be no money; all shall eat and drink on my score; and I will apparel them all in one livery, that they may agree like brothers, and worship me their lord.

DICK. - The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers.

This explanation however, has probably stopped it from being funny ever again, for which I humbly apologise.

The problem with the joke is that, it depends on choosing as a target a figure who can be widely reviled. It's a good joke, but it doesn't work when the target is fluffy kittens or Keanu Reeves.

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