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I am not going to start using Latex, but sadly this:

  <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td>...

still works just as well for layout than anything I've seen using CSS/HTML. Even worse, all I want to do is tab over from some text:

  <code>(SUB X Y)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</code>subtract<br>

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That reminds me of this gem from back in the day:

http://okcancel.com/comic/98.html

... When people realized that you could, painfully, use CSS for layout and dump layout tables altogether.

Serious question: Why can't I use tables and define cells sizes in terms of vh and vw?

Tables are totally fine if what you're visualising is data that belongs in a table. Tables for layouts are not semantically correct and breaks a lot of expected behaviour for people with assisting technology.

Html shouldn't consider layouting, that's for css to do.

You haven't looked hard enough and aren't aware of all the issues with using tables for layout.

In addition, the attributes you show are now obsolete and non-conforming: https://html.spec.whatwg.org/dev/obsolete.html#non-conformin...

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