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> You have to be Mozilla, or Google, or someone it seems in order to convince people this language is for real

Counter-examples: Clojure, Elm.

Sorry, but those languages don't really have adoption outside of small echo chambers.

I've heard about those before. What are they?

clojure is lisp on the jvm. not sure about elm.

I think they were being sarcastic.

oh, duh.

Elm is a JS framework for rendering views. It has a type system and guarantees no runtime errors while being fast. The language compiles into JS.