This comment alone, and the lack of any comment by any Apple rep so far down the comments, makes me think that I did the right thing ditching macOS as my main web development workstation in favor of Windows.
I remember I did a double take when I saw Corbin answering questions about NSTableView on StackOverflow, felt like hell had frozen over.
If, for some reason, the article you are looking at has issues but no feedback affordance, use our site feedback channel or DM me on Twitter (@DennisCode) - would be happy to route the feedback and make sure we address it.
We triage those items fairly regularly.
I don't want to attack you personally but MS support always has been a black hole and when I look at the feedback forums there are always these generic messages ("We are sorry,. Pleas help us to understand") that either are written by robots or certainly feel like that. But nothing ever gets resolved, there never is a direct answer to clear problems.
Do people at Microsoft not use their own products, so they don't know something's broken unless a user reports it ?
Using users for QA has made Windows 10 the worst Windows I've ever used and it's something to see that same attitude permeate every Microsoft product.
That vastly more critical Facetime/facepalm issue certainly went straight to /dev/null , so ... thanks for the laugh, I guess.
The game that Apple's dev evangelism needs to play is the same one that MSFT/Google/etc play. Apple gets a free pass because they've had a largely devoted (almost cult-ish) fanbase of software developers (of which I count myself). They're starting to piss them off, though, and that has cascading effects.
Lobbing things over the wall doesn't work anymore.
The ending of that article is a very resigned "this is all you can do. This is why it's this way, though.". The article is absolutely a criticism of how the bug process works.
The entire point of all of this is that Apple needs to play the game better. You have a weird habit of popping up in every single thread to defend them, and I've noted your past associations with them in other threads, so I'll probably not bother responding to this further.
I meant this more as "if you go back and read the article, looking for the part I mentioned, since you may have missed this", which I included because you said my answer wasn't really great "because of so and so" even though it basically just restated what I had said. I know about the problems you're mentioning are: you know how I would.
> The ending of that article is a very resigned "this is all you can do. This is why it's this way, though.". The article is absolutely a criticism of how the bug process works.
> The entire point of all of this is that Apple needs to play the game better. You have a weird habit of popping up in every single thread to defend them, and I've noted your past associations with them in other thread
Again, I'll freely admit I generally lean towards Apple because of the amount of time I've spent associated with the platform/tools/company, but I'm not disagreeing here: I'm with you 100%. As Corbin notes, however, filing bugs is more likely to get your issues noticed (and possibly responded to) than posting it four comments deep on a thread that admittedly has a higher-than-normal chance of getting clicked on by an Apple engineer. I guess if you know an engineer you might be able to see if they can institute change, but even then I'm not sure that would help much. Getting articles like these on the front page of Hacker News regularly might, though…
Making devs feel like they're being listened to is an important part of attracting devs nowadays, which ofcourse apple says they're above. Apple famously doesn't chase anyone after all(with predictable results).Instead apple evangelists like you have to take up the standard - which doesn't assure anyone.