Due to professional hacking, this website has been removed from the web

Unfortunately, comments like "Content that many people found useful, including medical professionals was found to be reworded and that in itself is dangerous." make me worry that one or more of the site's operators may not be on an entirely even keel.

Kaiser is not without its controversies, but to believe that they are conspiring with Joe Biden to have the government disrupt this static website that largely just links to news reports and government record is... a bit of a stretch.

Am I missing something, or are they actually unable to reliably host a static site? There are so many viable options (Netlify, Github pages, even the classic wordpress.com). I highly doubt the claim of professional hacker - based on the grammar in their final note and the haphazard arrangement of information in the archived site, I'd speculate they had a gaping hole somewhere and never bothered to fix it.

The story presented by this website simply makes no sense. There is literally no way that anyone can "hack" a decently setup static site especially if you are being advised by "professional security firm".

My guess is that either:

A. The people hosting the site are simply doing this for attention and never actually got hacked.

B. They did not actually consult a "professional security firm" and instead are hosting the site in a very silly way and probably got hacked randomly by a script kiddie.

This defies belief. In a meeting between a former Vice President and executives of an $80B/yr health care company, they authorized hacking of a 20-year-old, little-known site to reword unfavorable articles?

The authors clearly feel that they have been wronged by KP and have spent decades fuming online trying to "expose" the organization, and failing to have done so, have fabricated an even bigger conspiracy involving unstoppable hackers and election tampering to silence them.

If indeed they have a "professional security firm," they have almost certainly told them they can't help anymore to get an irritating client to go away.

For those curious about how the website looked before the removal, here's a Web Archive link:

http://web.archive.org/web/20181122020124/https://kaiserpape...

A copy of the content, just in case the page gets HN'd, is below. The email addresses have been removed so that spambots don't pick them up.

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KaiserPapers.org

In Copyright Since September 11, 2000 This web site is in no manner affiliated with any Kaiser entity and the for profit Permanente

May 13, 2019

Due to Professional hacking/vandalism of the Kaiser Papers and related sites which began when Kaiser Permanente representatives met with Joe Biden a few days ago and our professional security firm has been unable to handle this problem it has been decided that the web site and related sites should be removed from the web, at least for the time being. We apologize for the inconvenience.

A similar problem took place during the last Presidential Campaign. It became a daily problem to repair the site at that time. Content that many people found useful, including medical professionals was found to be reworded and that in itself is dangerous. To avoid such problems this year, 2019, we are simply removing all content.

We are not a political website nor organization, so whatever games, for whatever contracts anyone wants to secure with the Federal Government determined by the outcome of the election is something that we can all just sit back and watch. The government itself appears to be divided in opinion regarding medical issues involving Kaiser. Consequently, as before, even though we were then told by law enforcement who was doing the hacking, we can't count on assistance from our government to stop it.

If you need assistance or suggestions pertaining to navigating the Kaiser system here are three email contacts you may write to:

Vickie Travis

Hillarie Levy

Michele Monserett Ramos

Paranoid conspiracy theorists run a paranoid conspiracy website, and are paranoid that a government is conspiring to hack their website.

Also, it is (was) static HTML. It is a bit hard to believe a static HTML site has been hacked, and professional security firm can't prevent it from being hacked.

So they simply say that they can not put their static content on github? Awesome. The security firm that handles their issues must be evaporated from planet.

If you're a bit out of the loop like me, here's some stuff that I've looked up trying to understand.

Kaiserpapers.org appears to be a compilation of articles criticising Kaiser Permanente. The note read in that light makes it seem like they feel Kaiser Permanente has hacked them.

Had to do some research because I don't live in one of the areas that they serve but Kaiser seems to be a combination of a hospital network and an insurance company with doctors paid salaries rather than per-service.

Seems like a good idea, not sure what criticisms are about, maybe someone who is more familiar with it can shed some light on the situation

Damn the wayback machine has a terrible UX (no offence intended, its still profoundly useful. Could be easier to use though... Make it clear where other content is and possibly indicate how many links on a page are broken. IDK)

Here's apparently how you see a list of other resources that it archived from the original site: http://web.archive.org/web/*/https://kaiserpapers.org/*

My question is: couldn't their "security firm" just make this a static site hosted on (say) S3?

why is this site seemingly being targeted?

>The government itself appears to be divided in opinion regarding medical issues involving Kaiser. Consequently, as before, even though we were then told by law enforcement who was doing the hacking, we can't count on assistance from our government to stop it.

1. That's fucking terrifying.

2. Russia?

3. Why is this website/foundation the target of politically motivated hacking? I'm ootl.