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Trump declares emergency over IT threats

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It would do good to remember that while the US has a valid concern that the Chinese govt could force Huawei to spy on US telecoms, the US has laws in place that allow it to do the exact same when it comes to equipment from the US being used in other countries.

In the US there are courts I can go to, and the government can get a smackdown and cease its unlawful conduct. Can you show the same for Chinese courts rebuking their government?

"In 2017, according to a report by the director of national intelligence, the government obtained 534 million phone records from telephone companies"[1]... I wouldn't quite say they were smacked down in terms of mass metadata surveillance. They literally shut it down cause they couldn't make the data useful.

[1] https://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-nsa-phonere...

Are phone records the same as access to telco routers and infrastructure?

That's the point. If a murderer tells you that she's worried about other murderers killing people, you should listen to her and not call her a hypocrite. She may be an expert on the subject, and in a very good position to tell you something useful. I was all for giving China benefit of doubt, and peaceful rise, and all of that. But the turn of abrupt face made me change my position. Now I am for containing China before it becomes the next USSR, absorbing countries and putting people in gulags.

> If a murderer tells you that she's worried about other murderers killing people, you should listen to her and not call her a hypocrite.

OH, I see! Your whistleblower murderer is worried of other murderers murdering you while actively trying to murder everyone else including the potential murderers, right?

> I was all for giving China benefit of doubt, and peaceful rise, and all of that.

The PRCs rise wasn't peaceful.

So... I’m not sure, but doesn’t this mean a lot more waters will get muddied from the tech follow-up and more evidence for collusion with Russia (in particular Wikileaks) will have a greater likelihood of accidentally being destroyed?

Finally. The whole "we do it too" is a matter of degree. We have an "approximate" democracy. There is infinitely more transparency in our totally fucked system vs the CCP totally fucked system.

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