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Comment by mschuster91 | Hacker News Reader

> Ships In Own Container (Amazon SIOC) certification puts the responsibility on the manufacturer to certify their products can be shipped without extra packaging.

Sorry, but how can this be a good idea? I'd hate if I ordered something expensive, for example a digital camera, and every porch pirate (or shady parcel delivery subcontractor) immediately sees "this thing is worth a couple grand", compared with the usual Amazon grey packaging.

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Its usually a brown cardboard overbox with a barcode that has extensive droptesting.

More common these days is for manufacturers to produce items, and separately purchase very durable over-boxes that are sent to eCommerce customers like amazon/walmart/bestbuy/etc.

I often see an indicator on Amazon that the product ships in packaging that reveals what it is, with an option to select Amazon packaging instead.

If you're worried about porch pirates - use a locker instead. They're already stealing some of your packages anyway.

Shady subcontractors are Amazon's problem.

Its already the reality for most TVs and furniture (at least from Target), child car seats/strollers are the other big one that's always ship-alone

I've usually seen an option to select the kind of packaging at time order is placed.

This box of rubber gloves is SIOC and hopefully isn't too attractive to porch pirates: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JGLWP3S

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