This discussion is about Autopilot/FSD not the car itself. Tesla certainly didn't sell 400k cars with the FSD option.
Tesla is the only one actually attempting to empower individuals with FSD tech. Everyone else has given up and/or wants to monopolize it for private fleets. Everyone claims to be shooting for the same FSD capability. Different strategies is, of course, wrongly conflated with "fraud."
I tend to think Tesla is behind Waymo. It's hard to say beyond that. But for actual mass deployment of serious hardware, no one is ahead of Tesla.
Charlatan in 2019: The previous version by nVidia was such garbage (processing 1.5 fps, really?). Teslas built right now has all the hardware required for FSD.
Charlatan, a few minutes later: We are working on the next version of FSD hardware (that'd most definitely render 2019 obsolete)
There is Musk, the sometimes engineer, then there is Musk, the charlatan. An Engineer would never claim 'the latest hardware will be the greatest ever'
What I find so fascinating about this discussion is how Tesla is necessarily the most transparent player yet everyone else (with the same stated FSD goals) is given a pass due to secrecy. I suppose that means secrecy works.
Again you got ahead of yourself with the Tesla hype.
Also, Elon always promised hardware upgrade if needed.
We're talking about the holy grail of AI in the automotive industry, not a SaaS side project.
This isn't assigning the Summer Vision Project in 1966.
Everyone knew that this was going to be a monumental problem, and the only person in the room who was claiming they already had all the tools to solve the problem (a problem that no one else is even willing to say they fully understood how to approach yet) is also the guy with a record for lying through his teeth so much there's a term for it.
I'm excited to see real attempts at FSD. Not from the company that gets most of it's hype from AP1, which used the same sensor suit GM was putting in cars years ago for off-label applications so they could go around waving "autopilot", which resulted in easily preventable deaths.
There's a guy in a village next to me that is "attempting to empower individuals" with energy medicine (healing people with the touch of his hands). Everyone else, including medicine researchers, has given up on this.
Maybe people who've paid for the Tesla FSD package will receive what I imagine when I hear "full self driving". Or maybe, like No Man's Sky backers, they'll get something they're less happy with.
Tesla claim they have all the hardware for FSD, but FSD is still science fiction. It literally doesn't exist. Waymo is closest but they use Lidar, which Tesla's aren't equipped with.
Maybe Tesla will work it out and make a great self driving car on cheap hardware. I'll believe it when I see it
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-waymo-selfdriving-focus/w...
Tesla’s most recent FSD video took place around Palo Alto. The same area where its 2016 video was filmed.