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Pretty interesting comment. Let me see a reputable source which backs up 'anti pm message arrest under national security act'. I googled those and found just one arrest in a state which said

> Asked why Shinde had been suspended, Sharma said, “He has not been suspended just for the message. In the past, too, complaints were received against him for favouring certain political party person and showing political inclination. The WhatsApp message he posted is one of the reasons why he has been suspended.” Asked what exactly did he mean by showing political inclination, Sharma said, “I won’t be able to give all the details. But the past complaints and WhatsApp message are the reasons he has been suspended.”

source: https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/mumbai/mumbai-const...

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> In the past, too, complaints were received against him for favouring certain political party person and showing political inclination.

Why is this even a "valid" reason?

It's not, it's government censorship.

I mean, sure, everyone knows it is. But usually governments of democratic countries try to hide their intentions with some sort of reasonable-sounding excuse?

'Censorship' is bad, but I'm a little more concerned about the 'arrest' part ...

Even in the US there are restrictions on political activity by civil servants. Although I doubt those would encompass what was described here.

You seem to have taken only one source

Google "whatsapp admins arrested Modi"

First link: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ndtv.com/karnataka-news/wha...

Tdlr; Karnataka WhatsApp grp asmin arrested for morphed photo of the PM

Well looks like I'm blind because I find no mention of the national security act in the sources you linked as well. You're trying so hard. Oh well..

It is glad that you accepted. If only more ppl were like you who accepted their incapability while proving others wrong.

The source I gave was "Whatsapp admin arrested Modi"

If u want to look for those arrested under NSA, the results are one click away.

Now don't tell me your hands stopped working as well...

Haha 'one click away', I see nothing that proves your original comment, the burden of proof lay upon you (when the argument was active).

That's quite a jump to conclusion too. But whatever helps you sleep at night while accepting your bullshit narrative was openly called out and you made a fool of yourself. Must be hard spreading propaganda on internet forums. Have a good one. You may choose to reply to this comment but expect no further conversation. Peace :)

lol

I googled "whatsapp admin arrested Modi NSA"

And guess which link came first?

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/technology-44925166

Article says

> student has spent five months in an Indian jail over a WhatsApp message he says he did not send.

> Local reports say the 21-year-old man was charged with sedition because of "objectionable" content, although it is not clear what the message said.

I rest my case.

We ban accounts that do flamewar on HN. Please don't get involved in arguments like this on HN again.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Hey, sorry. My previous response was very rude. I immediately updated it to the current one. Does this also constitute under flamewar? (If so, I'm sorry)

It's not as bad. But it's still unnecessarily argumentative. A better spirit to post in is expressed in this old line of pg's: Comments should be written in the spirit of colleagues cooperating in good faith to figure out the truth about something, not politicians trying to ridicule and misrepresent the other side.

Try to find a point of connection between you and the person you're talking to. You don't need to say what it is explicitly; you just need to find it and feel it. Do that, and flamewar will magically be transformed into conversation.

Flamewar and personal attacks are not allowed here, regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are. We ban accounts that do this, so could you please review the site rules and follow them? They're at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html, and we'd be grateful.

Great point. I would happily follow the rules and I do.

Evidently though, the other person went ad-hominem with a very aggressive reddit-esque comment on a simple reply I gave. No one chimed in to flag that comment so I had to speak for myself. I just hope a moderator would have sprung into action sooner. That being said, it's nice you guys are making effort to keep the board clean from becoming `that`.

I'll just keep away from inciteful comments the next time. I really wish there was a report option here too.

Forgive my naivety, but aren’t Whatsapp messages encrypted? If so, how can the authorities see what’s written in them?

Someone in the group chat is a snitch.

Maybe someone snitched?

That is exactly what happened.

If people in the chat want him suspended, I guess it is those people with the complaint making a recording/listing of the chats and then passing the evidence onto authorities.

I thought only 1-to-1 messages were encrypted and group chat wasn't.

The group chat is also encrypted, but anyone in the group chat can share the messages.

Whatsapp does E2E for groups, which have upto 256 members. A Matrix dev said they scaled E2E to groups with thousands.

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