And those maximum visit lengths are counted on an annual basis. So you can only visit the US 179 days out of 365.
So they need to know when you came in and when you left. It's not good enough to just leave and not tell anyone.
And those maximum visit lengths are counted on an annual basis. So you can only visit the US 179 days out of 365.
So they need to know when you came in and when you left. It's not good enough to just leave and not tell anyone.
But institutions like governments only “see” via data collection, and in general are happy to collect whatever is technically and socially feasible, and people involved in setting up databases seldom stop to think about the risks or trade-offs involved in collecting various types of data, or whether that data is meaningful or useful. https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2010/07/26/a-big-little-idea-call...
Finding people who rob banks at some point and punishing them is of great interest to people fearful of robbers who like disrupting robbers’ lives for no practical purpose because they gain sadistic satisfaction from cruelly exercising power over other people.
You punish a robber ostensibly to stop them from robbing again, lest you end up the victim of a robbery. What does being the victim of someone's unlawful presence even mean?
There is nothing unique about the US in that regard. Most countries have a limit on how long you can visit.
This isn't always a good thing, of course, as there's less due process involved in handling such situations. Unlawful entry is a misdemeanor, lying to a border guard is a crime, and unlawful re-entry after deportation can be, also.
[1] https://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2017/mar/15/fl...
I think your "who is hurt" approach is weak though.
If a country can't enforce its own laws - or worse selectively enforces them - no one is obviously "hurt" but it erodes trust in the systems and process itself. It leaves everything up to the judgement of the people on the ground and damages the concept of equality under the law. It's a dangerous game to play.
I was suggesting one has a clear victim and the other doesn't so it may not be directly comparable. The "who's hurt" question was something I'm curious the consensus answer to rather than an excuse for not enforcing the law.
Not saying one way or another, but the argument is that ICE was only formed 16 years ago and that the U.S. was not 'overrun' before then. The Border Patrol etc. would still remain, just the Stasi-like tactics of removing people from their homes in the middle of the night and holding people in cages would disappear.
At least that's how I've heard the argument.
Saying "only formed 16 years ago" is only right among the "well, actually" crowd.
The difference in 'effectiveness' is sort of like the difference between the reach of the LAPD intelligence arm vs the CIA.
Staying for more than six months is usually one of the main measures to determine if one is resident and should pay taxes in the country, so there is at least a very good reason (although I don't know how much this applies to the USA specifically).