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Some people might be interested in the reasoning behind the change:

- https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/open-brand-project-what-probl...

That's interesting. Glad that they mentioned that the old logo always felt "secretive and villainous" - it did to me, too, and struck me as strange why basically the most trusted Enterprise Linux system's logo looked shady and creepy like the incognito-mode guy in Chrome.

It's called a successful countersignal. It says: "we commit to providing such an unmatched degree of pure technical excellence, openness and outstanding customer support that we can have a hidden/secretive white guy wearing a frickin' fedora hat as our literal corporate logo--And get away with it!" I'm sad and even a little concerned at seeing it go away.

"secretive and villainous" is a great match for systemd. It's also pretty good for PulseAudio, NetworkManager, and avahi. These have all been heavily pushed by redhat.

You know they're all open-source, right? I understand and identify with your concerns - I've railed against systemd enough myself - but they all work (fairly) well and have made management/administration of systems cleaner and easier. I think that's why Red Hat's pushing them.

Lots of things from Red Hat are nominally Open Source, but you'd have to fork a massive project to get away from Red Hat's control.

A great example is GNOME adding a systemd requirement. The key developers are employed by Red Hat, and Red Hat chose systemd, so no consideration needs to be given to the possibility that a Linux distribution might not want systemd. This is how Debian was forced into systemd.

The projects very clearly do not give consideration to criticism. Choices are made by the Red Hat teams, and that is that.

It's nice to see a company redesign their logo for all the right reasons.

They were very open about the reasons, they are simple and make total sense. I like the new brand.

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