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Mac OS supports exactly one line of hardware. So let's pick exactly one line of Hardware to run Linux so it's a fair comparison. I nominate either thinkpads or Dell XPS. Now then, in a fair comparison...

> consistent touchpad gestures,

GNOME has this.

> rock-solid stability,

Yep.

> instant wake from suspend without draining battery consistently,

Has that even been a problem this decade?

> great GPU drivers

I defy you to claim that great GPU drivers exist on any operating system, but as long as you're not using Nvidia Linux is perfectly good.

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>> instant wake from suspend without draining battery consistently,

> Has that even been a problem this decade?

Actually, it was, when PC vendors decided they don't need ACPI S3 state, and Connected standby is enough. Connected standby requires support from OS, and when it was introduced, only Windows 10 supported it.

But not that Macs don't have their sleep issues either. It is a lottery, whether a Mac connected to a TB dock will wake up or not (it will after disconnecting the dock).

NVidia Linux is a battery destroying monstrosity. My laptop fans go crazy with nVidia driver, making the laptop unusable. Using no driver gives a pleasant audiable experience (no HW acceleration). Heck, even Haiku with raw framebuffer driver runs more pleasantly than Linux with nVidia driver.

Officially, Nvidia doesn't support laptop GPUs under Linux. Given the Nvidia attitude towards Linux or third-party drivers, it is no wonder that the current state is as it is.

Why someone would purchase such product is up to their decision. They surely should know, that they are getting into unsupported territory, where nobody did any integration. But it is their money they are throwing at Nvidia.

Well, it's getting better thankfully. Given that most CUDA workloads run in Linux now, we've started seeing a much nicer cadence of releases. Though I agree on the desktop/laptop side there is definitely not feature parity.

Ugh, I just wish there was a slick laptop like the Dell XPS line that both supported Linux AND had a Radeon (or just not-nvidia) graphics card.

I've been looking for a viable contender and it appears that it just doesn't exist

is this for gaming ? the Dell XPS 13 is pretty decent when it comes to gaming. I have a 4 year old XPS and it plays a lot of games at lower XPS - im assuming the newer ones are even better.

The Ryzens are obviously in another league altogether here, but unless we get a Ryzen XPS, the Intel XPS are not bad.

Purism makes very nice Linux laptops with Intel graphics chips.

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