Running Out of Children, a South Korea School Enrolls Illiterate Grandmothers
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It seems such a shame for all those facilities to stand idle all summer, all weekend, all night.
As the article shows there are people who need the basic education that a primary school can give but surely we should go further still and offer everyone in society the chance to go 'back' to school and learn whatever they want. Perhaps to learn some of the things that they thought were dull or inappropriate when they were there the first time around. Men could learn to cook and sew, women could learn to maintain their car or bicycle, Lots of people could benefit from a better grasp of simple mathematics and statistics.
Yes, I know that evening classes and further education exist but they are far from universally available and except for classes in demand for craft training (mechanics, electricians, etc.) depend all too much on volunteer effort by teachers or even untrained enthusiats who are already overworked orunderqualified.
And lastly, why am I the only one commenting here? Surely life long education should be dear to the heart of all HNers? And worth a comment or two.
But aside from all of that, I think that the expansion of services that libraries provide would be an excellent way to go about this - many libraries are already getting 3D printers and all sorts of tools, and are consistently adding new programs. And I doubt many people oppose supporting local libraries. Plus, libraries are in some ways better equipped to train people on how to learn on their own (not that they shouldn't also have teachers, but self teaching is definitely a great skill for life long education)
Also, the idea of having many ages all together is really nice - something that doesn't even happen much in colleges. It's the sort of thing that helps foster community across generations and helps give people an understanding of more perspectives. Although luckily that kind of interaction can happen a lot across the internet.
Previous threads on HN (and many other fora) about local libraries in the US, bring out a lot of people who complain about local libraries. They say that libraries smell bad because homeless people sit there all day (and supposedly view pornography on the provided computers, and use drugs in the bathroom). They say that libraries are a waste of taxpayer money now that we have the internet and they should be shut down. I cannot claim to have visited every community in the USA, but it seems to me that a lot of people oppose supporting local libraries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_ethic#The_hacker_ethics
My small town library is expanding, not simply for more room for books, but also to make it a nicer space for events and programs open to the community.
The internet situation out here is also pretty bad (I use ubifi), so it's handy for those who are low income to access the internet without using data from their cell phone.
I agree many branches are essentially day-time shelters for homeless (sure, they smell really bad) and drug addicts.
Not sure about "shutting them down," but they try to justify their existence even in the age of the internet and wireless communication by claiming that they serve various unheeded needs of local community other agencies are unable to provide.
Are they really a waste of taxpayers money? Well, most librarians are unions members and they are not for the most part a drain on NYC finance -- we are talking about NYC where NYPD officers can make $150+K or sky-is-the-limit earnings for MTA contractors. I think the city has much greater issues at its hand, but the library system is far from frugal or efficient, IMO. Some work for the library because they share and believe in the mission and service they provide to community, but I suspect many don't care about that.
At least in a bunch that I've been in Illinois
My local library is in a nice building downtown, but it's real amount of books is far less than the books-a-million 20 minutes away, and most of the floor space is dominated by banks of computers. When libraries changed focus from providing access to computers, they kind of lost their mission, because computers are now dirt cheap, yet books are more expensive overall.
The local library also offers a large number of classes in various subjects for various ages.
Classes use a mix of facilities, but I've spent quite a few evenings crammed into an elementary school desk.
I've moved around a bit in my state and have always had this kind of offering available, even in quite rural areas. Is this not the norm?
Besides, with the internet, learning to cook, maintain bike or even basic math is available to most people. It's how I learned to cook.
And finally, the Hacker ethos is fairly anti-"schooling". Most hackers view school as indoctrination centers rather than centers of education. The idea of a "hacker" is being a curious free-thinker who tinkers and tries to learn things on their own. Maybe we should give everyone access to the internet so that they can seek the knowledge they want?
I suppose some community colleges might have something like that. I know there are some that offer language classes on 10 week cycles with no other enrollment or commitment required beyond a small fee.
One student who came in was very elderly; I don't know her age, but I think she mentioned great-grand children. And what she wanted tutoring on was her math homework.
She was studying how to add single-digit numbers. We must've worked on it for like 3 hours. I had no idea that the college taught a course like that; in fact, I strongly suspect that there was something else going on. And I was kinda confused about why she'd even want to learn about how to do basic math like that.
But she seemed to find joy in it. She was certainly an enthusiastic student! I don't know if she really walked away with a strong command of the material, but it was good to see someone so happy to have gotten to study.
The young, by being read to and told history; the old, by being surrounded by hope.
I have seen some attempts at schools attached to retirement/end of life homes.
I am not saying they have to take in immigrants but it's clear they need children and the children need a stable, safe and clean environment.
If only farming payed like in tech, I would happily do switch careers. Unfortunately this not how we human beings decided to run our society. Hopefully our French yellow vest comrades can give us revolutionary improvements again like they did in past.