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- You need to be off grains. Permanently. Forever. Sorry, but they are toxic. That means no bread, no pasta, no oatmeal, etc.

- No legumes, with the exception of white rice.

- No milk forever

- But do take other supplements.

So just the crazy pills then?

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I think this is true for a limited subset of "you." I personally watched a friend adopt the "no-grain, etc." diet, and immediately drop 15lbs and mostly clear up his psoriasis. I, on the other hand, don't have psoriasis or 15lbs of extra weight from systemic inflammation; so I wouldn't expect to see similar benefits from dropping grains.

It would be more likely your friend has gluten intolerance - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dermatitis_herpetiformis

If this is the case then cutting down on cereals would be standard medical advice rather than a wonder effect of an unsound diet.

I have a few other friends who'd experienced similar improvements in health just by cutting out wheat and the surprisingly many foods containing gluten. For the no-grains guy, this was insufficient.

Grains injure and inflame the gut walls OF EVERONE. A cascade of negative effects follow.

And, yes, those with celiac disease are particularly obviously effected.

Dropping grains will decrease gut inflammation. That has all sorts of benefits. Your friend had obvious symptoms which you don't, but that doesn't mean you wouldn't benefit, perhaps greatly. Give it a go for a month. See what happens.

You need to be off grains. Permanently. Forever

So what. We didn't start eating them until a few thousands years ago. The only reason to eat grains is that they are cheap. Better to save on other things.

No milk forever

Why? The previous book (GCBC) itself talks about how well Masais are, living basically on milk and blood, and it's an indictment of bad science research (cholesterol and sat fat paranoia) and a suggestion on where the problem or part of it could be (sugar and refined carbohydrates)

Milk contains a gluten-like protein called Cesin which is gut-inflammatory. The liquid part of Milk also contains a bunch of dissolved cow hormones.

Other Diary like cheese, yougout & cream MIGHT be okay for you (depends on your tolerance) but Milk should be avoided forever. The advice I've read is to avoid all diary for a month (giving the gut time to heal) and then reintroduce it and watch the results (feelings of bloating, energy levels, etc). In that way you can figure out how sensitive you are.

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