Bad Habits Creeping into Your Writing?
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I know why this happens. When you sit down to write, you don't know what exactly you're going to say. You may even be anxious about it. Then, an idea sparks your imagination and you start writing stuff. The warmup that comes out initially gets you on track. Nothing wrong with that.
The harm is keeping that crap in the post. Delete it! If I don't understand what I'm about to read in the first paragraph, I'm probably done.
Something else I don't like: writers who use too many words. The telltale sign of a first draft is the vast quantity of words (and even entire sentences) that don't need to be there.
A single edit with the goal of ruthlessly eliminating every unnecessary word works wonders for any first draft.
Edit: On the topic of fiction, the author gives a beautiful example from the Wizard of Oz:
> When Dorothy stood in the doorway and looked around, she could see nothin but the great gray prairie on every side. Not a tree nor a house broke the broad sweep of flat country that reached the edge of the sky in all directions. The sun had baked the plowed land into a gray mass, with little cracks running through it. Even the grass was not green, for the sun had burned the tops of the long blades until they were the same gray color to be seen everywhere. Once the house had been painted, but the sun blistered the paint and the rains washed it away, and now the house was as dull and gray as everything else. [continues]
I haven't read the book but this passage alone makes me want to.
I know I read this somewhere, but can’t find the reference now. So, take this with a grain of salt or a starting point for your own research :)
I assume people are trying to be the next online cooking personality who gets to publish a book. I've seen a couple in shops with pictures of YouTube recipe demonstration people on the cover.
Also, more text is more "content" to mix adverts into.
I just assume that they associate recipes and foods with times and places and people (generally happily) and it's akin to "do you remember that time mother cooked weasel?" kind of conversations you'd have with people, except on a blog.
But a lot of the sites I've seen don't feel that way. They feel like they are desperately trying to feel that way though (the old "sincerity is key: once you can fake it you win" skit).
Ah, yes. Of course. This is the most plausible explanation IMO.
Acronym expanded for the benefit of anyone else who's browsing HN before coffee and would have taken a similarly embarrassing length of time to infer the likely meaning of this one, which I'd never seen before.
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/recipe-filter/ahlc...
depends a lot on the commentary, though - i probably don't care about your feelings (sorry) or descriptive prose. on the other hand, when i'm looking up a recipe from another culture, i really value commentary on the background or history of the dish.
Part of the problem is that almost every food blogger is emulating the exact same character. It's the same harried but still whipping something creative together, educated but conspicuously mentions liking a glass of wine, love-my-kids-but-man-do-they-get-on-my-nerves persona. It's the 2010's white sitcom parent writ large.
I'd read a lot more of the prose on these blogs if they didn't all sound the same.
That's why I love King Arthur Flour's recipes (among others). Short intro, and then it gets right into how to get more consistency and quality out of the recipe or how to do variations on the recipe. It's not another long winded essay that boils down to "I cook this for my family."
But even then, you probably should be very selective when you do it. If the point is to entertain, it may be OK. (The Avengers Endgame is just over three hours. I bet there's some buildup in that.)
But don't do it if the point is to communicate. I read somewhere that someone said (either about physics or CS): "There's 50 times as much going on as I can keep up with, and I only operate at 2% efficiency. So there's this factor of 2500 working against me, and every day I fall seven years further behind." In that kind of of environment, if I read your stuff, you'd better not waste my time.
A strong setup can certainly pull readers in. The problem is often most inexperienced writers use such a setup to clear away their "mind fog" and get to the point. And once the words are on the page it's hard to remove them (nobody wants wasted effort).
My guidance to new writers is always this: start with two bulleted items. First is a question or priming sentence. Second is the conclusion the reader will takeaway after reading what you've written.
Once you have those two bullet points you make them part of your first paragraph AND use them to structure the entirety of the piece (just add more bullet items between the first and second points).
I don't think you've nailed it.
It's all calculated, just like that exquisite art piece someone crafted just for that article.
It's designed to string you along to keep you on that page, and to bloat the content so more ads can be inserted.
Also, don't forget that every word is also potentially a search-engine stuffer. Some verbiage is machine-generated for this purpose.
Also referring to personal anecdotes of random persons to further a point.
I also find the use of statistics/citing numbers from studies to prove a point, a most boring way to argue a point in writing.
This definitely depends on the point being argued, and the rigour expected by the audience. For any vaguely technical subject, it's quite possible to cite statistics to great effect, though it may not always be necessary.
Actually, your comment made me think about how I respond to statistics in non-technical writing, say, in a news article or forum post. My gut reaction seems to be: "how is the author going to spin this fact, and what other evidence did they conveniently ignore because it contradicts their argument?"
"A single edit, eliminating unnecessary words, works wonders for any first draft."
It's a cheap shot (that I learned from Language Log) but if you're going to live by the sword...
This phrasing makes it clear that the goal of that edit is to eliminate every unnecessary words.
> A single edit, eliminating unnecessary words
This phrasing implies that just one edit is needed, no particular focus, and is satisfied by eliminating some unnecessary words.
By your own interpretation, we can get rid of "ruthlessly", no?
> This phrasing implies that just one edit is needed
I don't think it does, even when disconnected from the rest of the sentence. It's fairly clear to me that it's talking about an edit where you "eliminat[e] unnecessary words" which may or may not be part of a greater editing process.
Pet peeve of mine - If we could eliminate the "I appear to be talking about something happening today, but am actually talking about something that happened in 1840" article setup entirely, that would make me very happy. It was clever at first, but you can now usually see the setup coming a mile off.
Many writers rely more heavily on pronouns than I’d suggest is useful. For me this sort of thing comes under the heading Remember that Writing Is Not Speaking. When we talk, we can usually make ourselves understood even amid a flood of vague “he”s and “she”s. On the page, too many pronouns are apt to be confounding. I’d strongly suggest to the point of insistence that you avoid referring to two people by the same pronoun over the course of a single sentence; to be frank, I’d suggest that you avoid it over the course of a single paragraph. (I know a few authors of same-sex romance novels who are regularly driven to tears by this sort of thing.)
Tightened up:
Pronouns can be overused. Writing is not speaking. When we talk, we can understand who's who amid a flood of "he"s and "she"s. On the page, that's confusing. Best to avoid referring to two people by the same pronoun in the same sentence. (Same-sex romance novelists struggle with this.)
Who, besides the guy himself, says this guy is the "Internet's copy editor in chief"?
What you have gained in brevity, you have lost many times over in tone, pace and depth.
The author's repetitions are not errors - they highlight his insistence. Additionally, despite ample pronoun use, his text is clear and illustrative of his point.
- Pronoun overuse bad. Write don't speak. When talking, many pronouns understandable. Not on paper. Avoid same pronoun for multiple people (same-sex romance especially difficult).
Or how about another:
- Pronouns bad. Write don't speak. Can speak many pronouns, not write. Same pronouns, multiple people? No. (Same-sex romance especially)
Making something shorter or "tighter" isn't necessarily better. Word count isn't everything.
Brevity may be the soul of wit, but that implies there's still wit left. There's lots of writing effects that can be lost through overediting, or following the "rules" too closely.
Doubleplusgood. You plusgood future Oceania.
Half of that is neither grammatically correct, nor complete sentences, and there is limited implicit or explicit relation or flow between your dot points.
Please never write like this.
I wish more people would accept that writing is not speaking. Beyond pronouns, when this is good advice:
- Don't use acronyms for short names or phrases. "Department of Motor Vehicles" is a mouthful, but not much more of an eyeful than "DMV" after seeing it twice. (Consider using the acronym if the amount of space filled with text looks daunting).
- It's okay to be repetitive. In fact, it's good to repetitively present data. The pinnacles of this is the table, but narrative text also works.
I find this much harder to scan than the acronym, especially when the acronym is common.
https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&prefix&page=0&dateRange=...
I read a few of the posts in the search results, and "That being said" felt natural in many cases to join sometimes contradictory positions or different degrees of the same position together into one fluid thought.
Someone can cringe at anyone. Without offering critique, insight, or alternative it feels hollow though.
Also, using stock phrases—especially ones that are overused—where a word would do ("however" or something along those lines) is often discouraged.
That being said, it may just be me who is annoyed by the phrase. I think it just gets used a lot and I can't help but notice for some reason. I think I've associated the phrase with strawman arguments and my hollow cringe is unfair judgement.
Don’t do this. It’s a good way to make your writing appear incoherent.
To me it carries connotations of the first clause having validity while the second apparently contrasting point also has validity. Its specific purpose is to allow a connection between points, without explicitly eliminating or contradicting any of the clauses.
Using 'however' or 'but' lacks this contextualisation, and that's without getting into the criticisms of their use is popular speech and writing (i.e. when someone says two clauses of the form 'A, but B.' what they usually mean is 'B').
'But' is very generic and 'However' is longer than 'that said'.
> It also seems redundant, maybe just start typing your contradictory position without the need for a connecting phrase?
That makes it much more difficult to keep the topic flowing, and it can be very confusing if you jump to an almost-contradiction without warning the reader that it's time to do some contrasting and fine-tuning.
We're both nitpicking at this point: "however" is shorter than "that said" according to two out of three relevant metrics:
"however": 1 word, 3 syllables, 7 characters
"that said": 2 words, 2 syllables, 9 characters
That said, it's a waste of time to worry about the difference anyway. Keep in mind that we aren't minifying JS or hand-optimizing processor code. When it comes to natural-language communication between humans, not every byte matters.
Use the words that sound natural to you for your intended audience. Weigh feedback from trusted coworkers and members of that audience.
Some others are "I've said it once and I'll say it again", "as I said/wrote/posted/blogged before". Those seem to suggest the author is assuming they are famous/popular enough that their previous content has been read. Of course you could look at it as they are just suggesting you go read their previous post but for whatever reason that specific way of saying it comes across less as info and more as "of course you read my previous post".
I'm aware this is a personal opinion with no basis in reality.
All the time - probably a good 20% of my work days are spent starting into the middle distance thinking.
Does anyone know if such a thing exists?
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https://english.stackexchange.com/
I'm not entirely sure what would be on a literature GitHub.
Just as a thought experiment, it's interesting that I think nothing of forking and maintaining a codebase for personal use, but I can't imagine participating in the writing of stories in the same way. Literature seems to maintain the primacy of the 'maintainer', but if I think about the evolution of storytelling generally, this doesn't seem to have always been the case
-- William Faulkner
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Kill%20your%...
Laughs in Ready Player One: https://i.imgur.com/oJXgNRQ.jpg
Also I can't tell what's wrong with Jackson's passage: I assume it has something to do with Graves/gravely, but I don't know why it's wrong.
All in all, writing code seems much easier for me.