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I find that page kind of dubious at best, given the substantial number of factual assertions without sources, the conveniently unavailable video, the entirely anonymous letter cited as a source, and the basic fact that even the very existence of "aerotoxic syndrome" has been rejected by inquiries and studies in several countries[1][2].

[1]: http://www.asma.org/asma/media/asma/Travel-Publications/Cabi...

[2]: https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld199900/ldselect/ldsc...

Edit: The "evidence" on that page is the existence of pilots who died prematurely of heart conditions and suicides, an anonymous letter scanned from a self-published book, a conveniently unavailable video, a bunch of slides without citations, the presumption that a lack of official information about a supposed previous event (which has all the same hallmarks of non-proof) is proof of a nefarious conspiracy, and a death report that mentions acute myocardial infarction and lethal levels of opioids from which we're somehow supposed to conclude that the actual cause of death was an airborne neurotoxin inhaled 50 days before.

Ok but "fume events" are reported all the time; I'm not sure what exactly you're disputing. Maybe it sounds conspiracy-theory like to you, that there is this not often discussed risk in flying due to supplying cabin air from the jet engine directly, but the FAA has recently shown that their corporate relations trump public safety, and there are clearly major financial interests to downplay the risk and keep out of the mainstream. Folks should use their own judgment.

The existence of fume events, and the basic health concerns that come with being exposed to jet fumes or aerated oil, are not a conspiracy theory. The idea that fume events are somehow linked to mass exposure to a neurotoxin that the FAA and every other major government are suppressing information about is a conspiracy theory.

> The idea that fume events are somehow linked to mass exposure to a neurotoxin that the FAA and every other major government are suppressing information about is a conspiracy theory.

Alternatively, there is no conspiracy, and every major government simply ignores dangers of aviation jet fumes. Sort of how everyone was sure, that invisible radiation is near-harmless and that radium dials are safe to use, until suddenly they weren't.

Well yes, but when it's a safety obsessed industry that's conducted studies into neurotoxins and cabin air is the subject of debates by national Parliaments, there's also the possibility that the internet theorist with no medical training might be being ignored because he's wrong. (the Mulder paper is, admittedly, considerably more substantial, although it's also a study of a single deceased individual)

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/study-reveals-permanent-b...

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