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This comment from nightcracker about GDPR privacy consent:

You enter a coffee shop. Before you can do anything, the owner takes a photo of you, and grabs your hand to take your finger print. He quickly writes down the date, time and what clothes you are wearing.

He gives you a smile as he starts his speech. "Before we continue, we at Coffee City want you to know we deeply value your privacy. We need your permission to store your information, improve your coffee experience, personalize your coffee suggestions and share it with our partners. Do you consent?"

You don't fucking value my privacy. I get some serious doublespeak vibes. If you valued my privacy you'd leave me the fuck alone and stop saving information about me.

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This is a very interesting take. The only problem in using this analogy for social media companies is that in a coffee shop you pay for the coffee. In case of social media you don’t pay for anything. So there is no incentive to maintain your privacy:

That's beside the point. They are saying one thing, then act in another way. It is a good analogy.

It's a terrible analogy.

The fact you pay isn’t besides the point… it’s literally the entire point.

If a Starbucks did that and said “btw, the coffee is free”, there’d be a line out the door and half way around the block.

In fact, Starbucks does that and they don’t even give you free coffee. You use their wifi and next time you walk in they’ve got your fingerprint, if you have their app they have even more info, and people accept all this gladly for what? Free wifi and occasional rewards in the app?

You’re underestimating how much people value anonymity over privacy, and free stuff over both.

The coffee may be free, but every 30 seconds, there is a new salesman talking to you and making you look at their highly customized sales pitch. You can try and ignore them, but then your peers at the coffee shop try and shame you by saying "But the coffee's free! Think of the poor baristas!"

People literally would not care.

The Starbucks app will send you daily notifications and targeted ones, people do not care.

Has it ever occurred to people who are so anti-advertising that the reason we live in an ad driven world is because that’s what consumers want over just paying fair value for things?

Otherwise why would a paid alternative to gmail not exist? In fact, if people actually wanted that, why would Google not sell it to them? Google's accounts do not care if 10 cents comes from ads or from your pocketbook.

And you think companies you're paying don't have the exact name privacy policies?

Pretty sure my coffee shop has a security camera, and most customers pay by card.

True, although there's the choice by the customer to use cash or their card, for the same price and product in return.

Pretty sure the coffee shop doesn't livestream the camera feed to 150 "partners".

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