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World's biggest is a bit questionable. As of 2018 BYD sales $16bn, Telsa $21bn. Growth over previous year approx 24% BYD, 90% Tesla.

Charlie Munger remains a BYD fan - "BYD is going to be huge electric vehicles. They are already huge. And they’re going to be much more huge..." http://latticeworkinvesting.com/2019/03/03/charlie-munger-fu...

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And Nissan Leaf has outsold Tesla in number of vehicles.

This is false. The Leaf passed 400K sales last month: https://newsroom.nissan-global.com/releases/nissan-leaf-firs...

Tesla had delivered more than 500K cars by the end of last year: https://insideevs.com/tesla-production-deliveries-graphed-q4...

So the Leaf has outsold each Tesla model but not Tesla in total number of vehicles.

This comment chain is a good example of mesofacts. http://archive.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2010/02...

I’m pretty sure BYD had more sales than Tesla until pretty recently. The Leaf outsold Tesla until recently. Both were true for quite some time. If you learned those facts, it’s easy to miss when they stop being facts.

Nobody outsold the GIANT of electric vehicles (Detroit Electric) until 2010 for Nissan and maybe 2012 for Tesla.

Overall sales were all Nissan with the Leaf in 2010 until maybe 2018 when Telsa surpassed it.

Detroit Electic was a hard act to follow for over 100 years.

Don't forget that Tesla got huge preorders for years ahead, BYD does not take preorders as far as I know

BYD sells a huge number of buses, and one electric bus removes as much fossil fuel pollution as about 25 EV cars, from what I recall. They also sell other vehicles.

But I am not knocking Tesla. They are also doing very important things.

BYD sells more cars then Tesla, and Tesla’s sales are down from last quarter.

They also sell a lot of hybrid cars. Would be a better comparison with pure EV sales.

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