People with other versions of Android and iOS can test and report here?
People with other versions of Android and iOS can test and report here?
- FAIL Galaxy Tab 4 7" (SM-T230) Android 4.4.2
- FAIL Galaxy Tab A 7" 2016 (SM-T280) Android 5.1.1
- SUCCESS Galaxy Tab A 9.7" (SM-T550) Android 7.1.1
- SUCCESS Galaxy Tab A 10.1" (SM-T580) Android 8.1.0
I don't have any Android 6 device at hand, but this is consistent with @regecks statement "On Android, the root was first added in Nougat" (which is Android 7).
This is going to be problematic, as there are still devices currently for sale on Android 5/6 (such as the aformentionned Galaxy Tab A 7", which doesn't have a replacement on some markets).
If I recall correctly, Android >=5 has pretty decent support for modern crypto (such as TLS V1.2, ECC). So, Android 5/6 could still just work, if the vendor is bothered to update the CA root store.
The issue is not so much about the browser, as I'm an app editor (which happens to also sell tablets with our apps preinstalled to reduce friction). The issue is that apps that rely on the device certificate store aren't going to be able to use https with a server using a Let's Encrypt certificate issued with the new root CA.
Shipping a root certificate store would be (for my scale) a bad practice. I made the mistake of pinning a SSL key in the past, never again (you run into issues when your clients never even connect the device to the internet in 3+ years, and then your updater doesn't work anymore).
Fortunately for me, I don't currently use Let's Encrypt for my API servers, and that news was the last straw to make the boss decide we will stop selling Android 5 devices.
Unfortunately, this means our users who recently bought those devices will have some third-party apps might be broken starting 9th of July, and some sites will give a scary warning.
My wife runs a blog which generates substantial income and uses certs from Let's Encrypt. It's a non-tech blog with primarily US readership. Checking stats for this month, 7% of all visitors were using Android 4/5/6 (20% of all Android users). The percentage of users on old Android running Firefox was basically nil. Losing all these users would be very costly.
Hopefully certbot will be modified so it is possible to pick the current intermediate during automatic renewal. If I have to do a manual operation to switch intermediates each time the cert renews (currently done by cronjob) then it is probably safer (operationally speaking) to just buy a cert.
I don't really understand why Let's Encrypt is making this change now. Sure, the current root is expiring "soon", but not until September 2021. Switching roots could be safely pushed off to early 2021 at which point hopefully most of these older Androids would be cycled out.
An SSL cert can be purchased for as low as $6 a year; if this is important to you, try buying one of those.
Edit: fortunately it looks like certbot plans to support using the old intermediate https://github.com/certbot/certbot/issues/6971 so this should not prove necessary.
The good news is that unlike some of the required test sites, which took a bunch of advanced planning (you can't ask Let's Encrypt's service to mint you an expired cert so the expired cert was produced by requesting a valid cert and then waiting for it to expire and making sure not to lose it...) this test is easy for anybody knowledgeable to manually reproduce in a few minutes, as it's just the "wrong" certificate chain with the good trusted leaf certificate you got from Let's Encrypt. So even if they don't heed your call I'm sure someone else can.