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Some feedback:

1) It seems you're selling location details for businesses and other places of interest? Make it extremely clear that this is not people. Also need much more detail on the source, legality and quality of this data.

2) Remove the fish/pond/bait naming. It's not a game, and these terms and descriptions just make it harder to understand and look unprofessional. Stick with normal terms like credits/lists/locations, etc.

3) Location and geographic data is an extremely competitive field. You need to figure out exactly who you're selling to and why. It seems you're going after self-service individuals/small-businesses market. Beware that there will be lots of unscrupulous and shady characters in this segment.

4) After the above, figure out your pricing and make it clear.

5) HN is not the best place to show this. Try some of the marketing forums and chatrooms to get feedback.

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Thanks! It's just a beta and many things need to be improved. The first point is whether the idea is good. If so, improvements will be made based on comments and advice. Thanks again.

Idea's don't matter, it's all about execution and solving a problem that customers will pay for. You said in your other comment that you are new to marketing which is troubling to hear since this is not a simple industry to get into to.

That's why I asked about what it is exactly that you're providing and to whom. You should really have an answer to that before you go any further.

Eh, I disagree vehemently with 5).

- A geonerd and open data nerd who working now works in marketing engineering after years of working elsewhere in the stack.

I do not agree 2) & 3)

Maybe his way to be different is to use funny terms and gamify the experience.

OSM is very geeky and this could be a new open door for many.

immediate reference : glitch.com . How not helpful would it be to follow your recco ? (then again, the guys @ glitch are uber successful before glitch, so they are more prone to "do whatever they want and just not fit the traditional"

2) Several people made this remark. Now, I do not know if I keep it that way or if I do something more classic.

3) I'm learning. I am not used to the field of "marketing"

Do you have a business problem you're solving with what you've built? If you're new to marketing, what was the motivation behind creating this?

Generally, within marketing you need reliable data that can support audience segmentation, market research, targeting or advertising.

The restaurant scenario may be good for a sales person, but they would want more information like the owner/manager of the restaurant, details on foot traffic etc. so they can 'size up' a target customer for a 'sales call'.

That said, bsed on the data quality disclaimers you noted, it seems the data may not be practical for real world use-cases due to scraping restrictions.

Duly noted. What do you mean by "for real world use-cases due to scraping restrictions"?

Why not A/B test #2

IMO there is some negative connotations to “bait” and “fish” but that may resonate with your audience.

I'm assuming this is a B2B service as stated on the homepage. Gamification is good for encouraging user-engagement and generally works when you can trade that engagement for ads or something else. It almost never works for B2B and it's very hard to pull off the cute/humorous approach. If you want people to pay you, you should make it as easy as possible for them to understand the product and value they're getting.

I don't really see what Glitch has to do with this. The fact that a gamified/cute site exists isn't an argument that this should be the same way. I also don't see anything about what you disagreed with point #3.

About legality, anyone has legal knowledge about this kind of data sharing ?

#1 I agree. I wasn’t sure it was people data and/or businesses

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