A Team at Amazon Is Listening to Recordings Captured by Alexa
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You agreed to the terms of use, they’re doing expected work to anyone that has any idea how this all works, there seems to be no malicious intent even implied. IDK, if you don’t want someone potentially listening you, don’t put an Echo in your home.
There's the contract that was actually signed, which Amazon didn't break, and then there's the contract people think they signed. It's generally considered your fault when you sign a contract with the devil and get tricked, but the devil is still evil. In other words, Amazon is evil in this situation and their customers made a mistake. If it had been made clear to non-technical people that they would get listened to by the listening device, then it would all be on them. However, this comes as a surprise to the average person, because it doesn't take that much work to encourage a false belief in the mind of a non-expert.
For sure. But lots of people dont't know how this stuff works and should not be expected too.
I wonder how many average consumers of Alexa products would feel differently about their purchase if it said on the box "some people at amazon are likely to listen to what you say". Sure, everyone agrees to the terms of use, but that doesn't seem to count for much in the way of "informed consent" these days. Maybe to the letter, but not the spirit.
How does caveat emptor not apply here? If you put an internet connected microphone in your home - it seems very reasonable to assume someone could listen in on that.
None of my VERY non-technical family think that their assistant devices aren't transmitting recordings of their voices to some remote server somewhere, because it's obvious enough. Even my 71 year old grandfather understands this.
There are just too many ways it can eventually be used maliciously, so much so that we can’t even contemplate or imagine them ahead of time. In that case, it should be illegal for a company to capture the consumer-generated private data, much the same as age of consent laws... even if a minor appears to have a self-aware and complete understanding of something they are consenting to, it is just legally defined to be impossible for the minor to actually be capable of granting consent.
The same should be true for collecting user behavior and non-aggregated user activity data, across the board. “Consenting” to it, whether explicitly or through site usage terms or EULAs, is just not a logically possible thing.
Most people who got an Alexa have probably no idea how it works and whether it is invasive or not and they quite certainly operate it under the assumption that no real human will listen in to the conversations they have in the presence of their electronic assistant.
Unless Amazon made a strong effort to communicate this in the clearest possible way (e.g. by putting a "our employes may listen in to any conversation" front and center on every place they sell it), they are in my opinion at least guilty in a ethical sense here. Legal is a different thing, but you can be operating totally legal, while still beeing ethically wrong.
The words free society and everything you don’t agree with should be banned seem like opposite things.
The reality is if you put an always on microphone in your home - you should absolutely expect someone could be listening. At not point did they promise you that wouldn't happen.
Seriously, in 2019, you are actually surprised this is happening? After all the news that keeps popping out, proving that almost every single effin' company out there is after as much client data as possible, regardless of morals and sometimes even laws? People actually pay for devices that keep monitoring them, hilarious (and sad tbh). To save few clicks and feel 'modern'?
I fail to see the proper added value in ones life of all these assistants, not in the light of all the technical f_ckups that shouldn't have happened by simple design decisions.
I know people who work at Apple. Their job is to listen to recordings taken by Siri, regardless of what the intention is. E.g. they listen to text messages people say to Siri - to send, searches, anything said to Siri.