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Its good to see the brand reemerge. For a while there I thought they were done.

Do you use SLES? Because I do everyday and its garbage. SLES 15 is a shit show... Rather use RHEL any day before SLES.

What's the problem specifically? When I had to check it out recently as a customer wanted to move to MariaDB I didn't find info about support for the older 5.7 version which is the last version identical to MySQL, and which would be helpful as an option to have for pinpointing errors.

I wish they'd produce a systemd-less version like Devuan.

> I wish they'd produce a systemd-less version like Devuan.

I've been hearing similar often. What's the beef with Systemd anyway? I've haven't heard much and Googling will surely just turn up a bunch of theoretical, philosophical, or hate posts. Why is Systemd bad from the perspective of a regular user.

I takes over so much of regular infrastructure - starting and stopping deamons, logging (writing log entries into binary files only systemd itself can read), login, time synchronization, network setup, and an ever-increasing number of unrelated tasks remotely associated with managing computers.

Some of us like the Unix way where things are predictable and composed of small, transparently-working programs that do one thing, and do it well. Nothing that systemd solves is worth abandoning established ways of system automation and follow Poettering's (author of systemd) vision instead. Systemd in its entirety is approaching the size of the Linux kernel itself. If I wanted that kind of monolith, I'd be running Windows, or AIX (where ironically Linux is heading with RedHat being bought by IBM). Have fun with IBM Tivoli SystemD cluster manager some ten years down the road.

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