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At this point in my observation of the diet wars I have concluded that no diet is based in science and everyone is wrong. Like religion.

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Yup. Have you also observed that the HN community has a vegan/vegetarian-bias?

People here jump to prompt criticism and ad hominem when there is a pro-meat submission. And right now that Burger King vegan burger loaded with questionable ingredients is being lauded as the greatest achievement in nutrition.

I dunno about the Vegan BK Whopper. But when apples cost > $1 each, head of cauliflower is $4.99, and yet you can buy chicken, cuts of beef, for the same price or less, something is up. That animal, raised, fed, given medical care, housed for some years. Seems like a lot of built in cost compared to seasonal produce. Either the government is subsidizing it up the wazoo and/or the meat industry in the US is King Kong size. Since it was mentioned, the same goes for the meat in the dollar menu. Ewww.

I think this is a pretty fair assessment as human nutrition needs can vary wildly based on a variety of factors. Some people obviously have nutritional deficiencies that are best addressed by eating meat. Most people need to eat more veggies. I think the omnivore's dilemma comes closest to a solid diet for humans.

In fact we have a lot of very solid science on nutrition. It's just that some companies with billions of dollars to lose are doing their best to confuse the issue and get everyone to give up, just as you have. It's straight out of big tobacco's playbook.

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