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People should be aware that Burger King has had (MorningStar) veggie burgers for a very long time that they just don't broadcast. This announcement is not about introducing a vegetarian patty but rather about introducing a _specific_ vegetarian patty.

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Indeed and I do enjoy the MorningStar patty with all the toppings BK puts on it. Big difference is MorningStar is one of those "not really trying to be meat" veggie burgers, whereas the Impossible Burger is trying to be a one-to-one facsimile of meat. So I think they are similar but different.

Another big difference is the Impossible Burger is vegan and the MorningStar burger is not (IIRC).

FYI there looks to be less saturated fat, and sodium in a MorningStar burger compared with the Impossible.

*http://smartlabel.kelloggs.com/Product/Index/00028989100689

But it tastes like a patty of vegetables instead of a mock meat burger. Not really even the same category.

My first complaint about the nutrition of the Morningstar burger is the ratio of carbs to protien. Restaurants are already throwing tons of carbs at me. I really want protein in my burger patty.

Wait, are you really complaining about nutrition at a fast food restaurant ?

Fast food doesn't necessarily have to be bad nutrition. I can cook a couple of eggs in a couple of minutes.

:^)

Heck, you don't even have to cook 'em!

It’s not as though some food is automatically bad for you because it came from Burger King, and even if it were, there is a huge range of how bad it is. I could get 500 calories from a burger or 2000 from a burger with a milkshake and fries. It’s not a good idea to make a fast-food restaurant a zone of nutrition nihilism where we just accept that we doom our health by entering and ignore the choice of what to order.

At least they are forced to display nutrition info, so I know what I’m getting, unlike most sit-down restaurants that serve even larger portions with no numbers included.

Sometimes, you need something fast, cheap, and easy, so it's nice to have some fast food items in mind that have reasonable calories and macros. A great example is when I'm driving long distance, I'll swing by CFA if possible.

> I'll swing by CFA if possible.

Uh... http://cfa.org ?

Assuming Chick-fil-A in this context

Chick-fil-A

https://www.chick-fil-a.com/

of course then you have the ethical implications of chick-fil-a

I really hate this take that if something is not perfect, you might as well just give up completely.

Note that the morning star patty is vegetarian, but not vegan. Also it is microwaved and not prepared on the grill.

No way they could prepare it on the grill, unless they had a dedicated grill for it. Sharing the grill with real burgers would mean tons of meat grease contaminating the veggie burgers.

They're probably unwilling to dedicate the kitchen space for a vegetarian grill, so the microwave is the obvious choice. Microwaves won't cross-contaminate like a greasy grill will, and are already in the kitchen so the financial risk is minimized.

Many vegetarians/vegans don't mind cross .termination.

Also, many fastfood places do have dedicated grills for vegan/vegetarian burgers, like for example McDonalds in the UK.

> Many vegetarians/vegans don't mind cross .termination.

Massively wrong. Most are easy going regarding using the same cutlery, pots, pan, etc (only ones I've met who aren't happen to be Indian mums or super strict vegans).

However... cooking up on the same griddle? Yeah, that's something most veggies and vegans I know who be very unhappy about.

morning star patties aren't vegan. I know this has been a barrier for some people.

Yeah but the morning star veggie burgers taste terrible.

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