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Agreed. I much rather have a company like Apple just flat out say "we can't make this work to our standards, to our customer standards, and we're not comfortable with releasing this product this way."

Versus say Google who'll just never mention it again or launch a broken version only to kill it off within two years.

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I hope it’s a sign of change to come. Their hardware has been actively moving from what users want to what their designers want (thinner is always better, ne legacy ports, no finger I’d, etc).

What makes you think you know better than Apple what most of their users want?

I suspect you just know what you want, and why you want it, and are extrapolating from that to everyone else.

Well there’s a healthy demand for the SE. It’s needed a serious update for quite a while and substantially from their current offerings. There’s similar preferences with the older MBPs as well. All widely commented on user forums.

I'd assume that users want a keyboard that doesn't break with alarming frequency and isn't nearly impossible to replace. That may just be me though.

It has always been like that. Remember then the Macintosh didn't have arrow keys? When they dropped disk drives?

They try being ahead of the curve and are know to ignore market interest. Sometimes they get a hit, sometimes they fail.

Usb/video ports are definitely in the same hardware realm as media drives. I don’t think people buy a laptop and never need those things. It’s like they’re tying to make their laptops into iPads.

If only they made the same decision abouut buutterfly keyboards.

but it has a hidden microphone, so it is upgradeable.

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