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I'm curious if you consider Nim or Golang to be a small language that is a "better C". If not, why?

I don't think they count as a "better C" for this purpose. I'm thinking of something aiming at the niche that C currently fills.

Having a garbage collector doesn't fit that, and Nim doesn't look small (anything with both destructors and exceptions is getting into complications rather beyond C).

Makes sense to me, thanks for answering.

Regardless, I use Nim when I need the performance and memory footprint of C. GC is optional.

Right, that's exactly the « it would be hard to compete against the alternative of using a small subset of {whatever} » case.

Can you use the standard library without GC?

Most of it.

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